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FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

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Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

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Dunno about the current prices, but it was a REALLY expensive paperweight for a long time. People paid hundreds of dollars for one.

nah - a "good" paperweight can easily rival the cost of a car

I simply park my car on top of papers that I want to keep in place -- one less paperweight to buy.

Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

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How do i use it without an Airtag? At the step number 9 the setup asks me to enter an Apple ID, which i do not have. Is there a way to track it on Android or Linux without an Apple ID?

You don't need a Mac to create an Apple ID, no? You just create one on the site. To be fair, I created mine years ago.

I've tried to create an Apple ID recently on a non-Apple platform and it was a huge PITA. Tried using different browsers on Windows and Linux, tried Apple Music on Android , tried iCloud on Windows - nothing.

Basically I was able to pass email and phone number verification, but then "Continue" button on the "Apple ID & Privacy " page doesn't work and you can't get around it. No error or description whatsoever, just internal server error in the browser's console.

Turns out it's a known problem and the same button works perfectly fine when pressing it on an Apple device. I haven't tried it in a macOS VM though, but presumably Apple flags such accounts anyway.

Related thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/applehelp/comments/17zawel/continue...

Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

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You don't need a Mac to create an Apple ID, no? You just create one on the site. To be fair, I created mine years ago.

I've tried to create an Apple ID recently on a non-Apple platform and it was a huge PITA. Tried using different browsers on Windows and Linux, tried Apple Music on Android , tried iCloud on Windows - nothing. Basically I was able to pass email and phone number verification, but then "Continue" button on the "Apple ID & Privacy " page doesn't work and you can't get around it. No error or description whatsoever, just i…

Yeah, Apple is crap that way. Whenever I log in from my Linux desktop, they "lock" my account and I have to go through a long process where I verify my email, phone, password, and they send me an SMS code.

If you want, I can create an account for you on my Mac, email me (email in profile).

Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

#54
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very interesting project, but one of the downstream dependencies used here is insecure by default: https://github.com/biemster/FindMy/blob/113ebf4017729b92a381... Seems to be auth lib for iCloud. Also seems to hard code a MacBook device agent in order to associate the generated keys with a device. As with anything in the centralized world, I wouldn’t use this on an account with a high number of services/digital asset…

> Also seems to hard code a MacBook device agent in order to associate the generated keys with a device.

Hold short, so you don't need an iOS device technically to onboard AirTags, any Apple device is sufficient? Why in the name of everything that is holy does Apple not support this officially, just to push sales for iOS devices or what?

(Angry rant of someone who bought an extra used iPhone despite owning like 5k in Apple desktop/mobile gear, just to be able to onboard some AirTags)

Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

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Sadly this requires a "donor" tag to impersonate (which then can't be used for as long as you want this to work), or using OpenHaystack which requires using a Mac in order to get the data.

It doesn't, I use it without an AirTag on my Linux machine. It works fine.

How? The README [0] states that a Mac is required. Do you mean that you use the Find My network to keep track of your Linux machine's location (as described in [1]), but not to locate devices (which requires either macOS or a proxy server running on macOS)?

[0] https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack?tab=readme-ov-fil...

[1] https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack/tree/main/Firmwar...

Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

#58
post #22

very interesting project, but one of the downstream dependencies used here is insecure by default: https://github.com/biemster/FindMy/blob/113ebf4017729b92a381... Seems to be auth lib for iCloud. Also seems to hard code a MacBook device agent in order to associate the generated keys with a device. As with anything in the centralized world, I wouldn’t use this on an account with a high number of services/digital asset…

> Also seems to hard code a MacBook device agent in order to associate the generated keys with a device. Hold short, so you don't need an iOS device technically to onboard AirTags, any Apple device is sufficient? Why in the name of everything that is holy does Apple not support this officially, just to push sales for iOS devices or what? (Angry rant of someone who bought an extra used iPhone despite owning like 5k in…

> why in the name of everything that is holy does Apple not support this officially, just to push sales for iOS devices or what?

You answered your own question ;).

My best guess (assuming it wasn’t malice/greed): not many people have access to an NFC/RFID reader and it’s Apple. So it has to be soft locked somehow behind the Apple Wall. So, in order to provide that “just works” experience. It’s better to advertise iPhone method as a way to get the tags registered.

Other methods exist, but your mileage varies. Also, Apple may change the APIs at any time and break that process. Thus, no support provided.

Re: FindMy Flipper – AirTag and SmartTag Emulator

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Has anybody tried this to see how the "Find My" app reacts to seeing the "same" tag in more than one location?

Am I missing something or would it just use the most recent one?

Yeah but what happened when one is many miles away and both are checking in, so most recent location is flip flopping.
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