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Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by coreygoodie »

tlrobinson wrote: post #39
MiguelHudnandez wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious -- given that you would be recognized in other people's photos, would they have a list of faces which are opted out, once recognized? For the very purpose of storing your opt-out preference, they would have to keep a record of your facial features, or you would continuously come up again as people tagged you manually.

No, they just have to store the fact that you don't want your account to be tagged in other people's photos. Of course that doesn't stop people from tagging as your name (not linked to your account) or a variation of it, but that's a losing battle. Actually they already allow you to opt out of the facial recognition feature: "Who sees tag suggestions when photos that look like you are uploaded?" ("Friends" or "No one…

Even if they don't tag you (as in, it showing up publicly), FB can still store whether or not you're there.

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by personlurking »

tlrobinson wrote: post #39
MiguelHudnandez wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious -- given that you would be recognized in other people's photos, would they have a list of faces which are opted out, once recognized? For the very purpose of storing your opt-out preference, they would have to keep a record of your facial features, or you would continuously come up again as people tagged you manually.

No, they just have to store the fact that you don't want your account to be tagged in other people's photos. Of course that doesn't stop people from tagging as your name (not linked to your account) or a variation of it, but that's a losing battle. Actually they already allow you to opt out of the facial recognition feature: "Who sees tag suggestions when photos that look like you are uploaded?" ("Friends" or "No one…

I believe Max Schrems, that young Austrian guy (who asked for the info FB had on him and received over 1,200 pages worth) told the press later about Facebook's 'shadow profiles'.

From an article I found,

* Shadow Profiles: Facebook is collecting data about people without their knowledge, using it to substitute existing profiles and to create profiles of non-users.

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by tlrobinson »

skore wrote: post #46
tlrobinson wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the reactions to Facebook's past privacy debacles I would be surprised if they didn't allow people to opt out.

The problem is this: What if I don't have an account, but somebody still happens to tag my face with my name, for whatever reason? I know that this is mostly about facebook users, but seeing how much facebook spam I get trying to incite me to join in, I could totally see them go this route - Encourage people to tag friends who aren't on facebook and thus give those friends no other choice but to claim their identity.

I'm only talking about faces tagged with an actual Facebook account.

It's unlikely they would enable facial recognition for non-Facebook users. How will they know the difference between two different people tagged as "John Doe" if they're not linked to a specific account?

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by pork »

maayank wrote: post #31

In a local geeks gathering a few months ago with Yossi Vardi and some Facebook executive[1], Yossi asked the executive "Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Redhat, Motorola, IBM, Yahoo, Intel, Philips, [.. more international tech companies ...], which one is the exception?", alluding to all of those companies excluding Facebook having R&D in Israel. As a local, happy to see them joining the list. [1] Actually David Fischer,…

Facebook doesn't have R&D anywhere, not even in the US

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by sprobertson »

Mystalic wrote: post #4

I suspect Facebook has bigger plans for Face.com's technology than auto-tagging. I bet they integrate facial recognition technology into the Facebook Platform. Tagging every face... everywhere... and sending that data back to Facebook. That could be monumental.

With what Face.com is capable of, they could even figure out people's emotional profiles... combine that with age estimation and they can see how that profile changes over time. I wonder when Facebook will start offering therapeutic services.

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by grandpoobah »

starship wrote: post #50

face.com -- all I can think of when I see this is "how much did they pay for that domain name???" It must have been in the 10's of thousands of dollars. How that can be a good use of startup resources is a complete mystery to me...

facebook still considered a startup?

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by latj »

loceng wrote: post #48
polynomial wrote: post #38

This marks the beginning of a new era of facial recognition in social media, which is essentially a labour saving innovation so that you won't have to spend all that time tagging your facebook photos. Instead, you'll spend all that time untagging them.

I recently discovered that Facebook had decided to remove my 'must approve when I am tagged' - nothing incriminating, just reminders of their abuse.

I agree with you. But I think the majority of fb users would disagree.

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by starship »

grandpoobah wrote: post #56
starship wrote: post #50

face.com -- all I can think of when I see this is "how much did they pay for that domain name???" It must have been in the 10's of thousands of dollars. How that can be a good use of startup resources is a complete mystery to me...

facebook still considered a startup?

I meant the company that was bought. "face.com"

I wasn't saying facebook just bought it for the domain name. I was saying face.com, as a startup, at some point bought that the domain name "face.com" despite having little to no revenue.

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by sp332 »

tlrobinson wrote: post #53
skore wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is this: What if I don't have an account, but somebody still happens to tag my face with my name, for whatever reason? I know that this is mostly about facebook users, but seeing how much facebook spam I get trying to incite me to join in, I could totally see them go this route - Encourage people to tag friends who aren't on facebook and thus give those friends no other choice but to claim their identity.

I'm only talking about faces tagged with an actual Facebook account. It's unlikely they would enable facial recognition for non-Facebook users. How will they know the difference between two different people tagged as "John Doe" if they're not linked to a specific account?

By their faces! Also gender, location, preferences, web pages visited (they still track your browser even if you don't have a profile), and by the networks of people who talk about them.

Re: Face.com acquired by Facebook

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Post by chrischen »

latj wrote: post #57
loceng wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently discovered that Facebook had decided to remove my 'must approve when I am tagged' - nothing incriminating, just reminders of their abuse.

I agree with you. But I think the majority of fb users would disagree.

Why do you say that? It seems like a generally unwanted feature. At most I'd think most fb users won't notice or care.
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