DEFCON’s response was posted on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Defcon/s/NVw5T4LXQR Unsurprisingly, it contradicts some of the claims Entropic has been making. Entropic admits to having exceeded agreed upon budgets by a significant amount, which DEFCON corroborates. There is some disagreement about what has been paid, though, as DEFCON believes they have paid for the hardware development. Some of the other claims al…
Entropic Engineering DEFCON 32 Statement
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Re: Entropic Engineering DEFCON 32 Statement
#52DEFCON’s response was posted on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Defcon/s/NVw5T4LXQR Unsurprisingly, it contradicts some of the claims Entropic has been making. Entropic admits to having exceeded agreed upon budgets by a significant amount, which DEFCON corroborates. There is some disagreement about what has been paid, though, as DEFCON believes they have paid for the hardware development. Some of the other claims al…
Work for hire is about employees. Entropic is not an employee of DEFCON, it is a company with a contractual agreement to provide something in exchange for money. The details of when, if ever, IP rights are transferred to DEFCON should be spelled out in the contract. I have seen all sorts of arrangements for that. However, in a well drafted contract, IP ownership probably wouldn't transfer prior to payment.
Also, the firmware author isn't an employee of anyone. In a lawyerly world, that would be resolved with a clear copyright assignment or license, but I have no idea if that happened.
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> Even I, as a gay half-Asian Muslim, not that any of that should matter, feel this needs to be pointed out: How is it not racist and sexist? Because if you're not very publicly and loudly checking off all the DEI boxes, you're just hiring a bunch of white cisgender heterosexual men. This isn't just defcon, this is how every company acts these days.
Does not make it less racist.
Re: Entropic Engineering DEFCON 32 Statement
#54DEFCON’s response was posted on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Defcon/s/NVw5T4LXQR Unsurprisingly, it contradicts some of the claims Entropic has been making. Entropic admits to having exceeded agreed upon budgets by a significant amount, which DEFCON corroborates. There is some disagreement about what has been paid, though, as DEFCON believes they have paid for the hardware development. Some of the other claims al…
Re: Entropic Engineering DEFCON 32 Statement
#55DEFCON’s response was posted on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Defcon/s/NVw5T4LXQR Unsurprisingly, it contradicts some of the claims Entropic has been making. Entropic admits to having exceeded agreed upon budgets by a significant amount, which DEFCON corroborates. There is some disagreement about what has been paid, though, as DEFCON believes they have paid for the hardware development. Some of the other claims al…
Re: Entropic Engineering DEFCON 32 Statement
#56Re: Entropic Engineering DEFCON 32 Statement
#57> Once a month, we billed for our work and submitted an updated estimated per badge final cost - committing as costs built to discount our work as necessary in order to hit DEFCON’s per unit cost targets.
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#58It sounds like an independent third party needs to review what happened.
Entropic appears to pulling at some emotional response with their initial introduction in regards to LBGTQ, etc. That’s irrelevant information.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then apparently I understand nothing, now I regret commenting. Thanks for the information, my mistake.
It's complicated and the information is all over the place hidden in reddit comments, the whole thing is a mess
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just here to point out that security is generally made of random goobers volunteering for shirts, and other things.
Not sure about this event but in Europe you have to hire a professional security company. I've been involved in organising a computer event and we simply wouldn't get a permit without it. Volunteers doing security is a big NO. Parking assistance (guiding), first aid, entrance checks etc yes. But if someone doesn't comply you get the real guys. And it makes sense. At one camp we had a drugged up visitor going ballisti…
Then hacker conferences like defcon have their own volunteer staff of various kinds. These usually are doing crowd control and information, but occasionally get involved in attendee drunken or stupid incidents, usually with lesser consequences to attendees.
Some high profile attendees (NSA head, John McAfee, etc) have their own personal security; goons/volunteers then worked as a buffer between those people and attendees. (I did this for a McAfee event at BSides which was super fun because his armed security were also high on methamphetamine and erratic)