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Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

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Totalitarian regimes don't win when the majority believes the general line. That never happens. Totalitarian regimes win when the people give in to despair. That's why people use the one-liners. They are coping.

I saw your deleted comment and I am not gonna engage with you because of it.

I'm sorry that you didn't think my one liner was funny.

Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

#52
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I blindly clicked this expecting an article about the matter. Was kinda surprised to be given a live demonstration. I can reach nhs.uk fine. Edit: searching Google, there are recent reports that make me feel like this is their response to being too incompetent to process cyber crime reports. I’m genuinely curious if someone unilaterally decided that people not physically in the uk don’t matter.

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Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

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For those unaware, the UK police are currently promising to go after people posting misinformation and retweeting content (including video of riots) that might incite hate. In response to this the UK police are being trolled on their live chats (largely by Americans I believe). I did originally post a link to these (you can find them on X), but given the content I don't want to risk it. I'm assuming they're now block…

For completeness, the context here is a social media post alleging the identity of someone arrested hours earlier for a mass murder at a children’s play group — an extremely distressing event that has been followed, for unclear reasons, by nationwide rioting.

This person was “arrested in relation to a post about the identity of the attacker in the Southport murders” and specifically “on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred”.

Most police forces / services / departments no doubt mis-use the law for vexatious arrests but this does not seem like one of those cases.

I do think it’s valid to question whether it’s moral for the Lilliputian Police to criminalise anti Big-Endian rhetoric. If everyone’s doing it it is hard to claim the nationwide rhetoric is responsible for specific violent crimes. If only a few people are doing it then there might be a causal link from their speech to the other crimes, and those links and subsequent crimes are a vital part of the debate.

Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

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post #43

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The problem isn't the hate speech or the enforcement really. The problem is that these powers have, can, and will be abused by petty bureaucrats, power-hungry law enforcement, the government itself and, as a result, enable actual tyranny.

Because there is no other way in a democracy to handle overreach... it's always the same straw man argument. "We'll end up in a dystopian autocratic tyranny nightmare TOMORROW if we do anything against it. With the only conclusion let's do nothing at all." Great input.

Tyranny doesn't require an autocratic dystopia to make life absolute hell.

Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

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Speech is regulated in the US as well. Publicly call for the assassination of a President and see what happens.

The exceptions are far more narrow than in the UK. Try and bring a libel charge in each country. PS: And technically, afaik, it isn't a crime to call for the assassination of the president of the US. It's illegal to attempt it, and to take actions that support those attempting it. But if you just post on Facebook about it... you'll get a call from the Secret Service and a recommendation that you don't do that, but no…

Post a copy of Pixar's latest movie online and see if that speech is protected. Or CSAM. It would be better to acknowledge that there very much are limits on the freedom of speech, just like everywhere else, instead of pretending we're better than everyone else and that we don't have any censors.

Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

#57
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This mechanism exists theoretically in the US. I live in a state that had a pre-Roe abortion ban on the books. After Roe was repealed. local prosecutors tried to use their prosecutorial veto to prevent enforcement. It was pointed out that if they straight up said “we won’t enforce the law” Private citizens could enforce it. Usually, a judge would throw the case out, but if a DA had publicly refused to do their job, j…

Didn't Texas go a step beyond that and literally empower private citizens to bring cases?

That was a civil thing.

Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

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$ host www.police.uk www.police.uk is an alias for fallback.soh.police.uk. fallback.soh.police.uk has address 104.18.28.214 fallback.soh.police.uk has address 104.18.29.214 $ host police.uk police.uk has address 51.104.28.64 Could someone outside the UK use the above and explain what they experience. Then we can get to the bottom of this. Its a bit late here for me to ask remote customers if I can use their gear to d…

From USA:

  :~$ host police.uk
  police.uk has address 51.104.28.64
  :~$ host www.police.uk
  www.police.uk is an alias for fallback.soh.police.uk.
  fallback.soh.police.uk has address 104.18.28.214
  fallback.soh.police.uk has address 104.18.29.214
Site blocked for me here.

Re: The UK government has blocked IPs

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I blindly clicked this expecting an article about the matter. Was kinda surprised to be given a live demonstration. I can reach nhs.uk fine. Edit: searching Google, there are recent reports that make me feel like this is their response to being too incompetent to process cyber crime reports. I’m genuinely curious if someone unilaterally decided that people not physically in the uk don’t matter.

Doesn't work from Australia either, so apparently the Commonwealth can get fucked. I imagine some middle-ranking civil servants at the FCO will, in a not-too-distant-future, be expressing a measure of dismay to their Home Office counterparts. Before which time, hopefully, the gov.uk folks will figure out how to selectively block access to live reporting channels, not the entire police service, in response to vexatiou…

There's a good chance that instead of "fuck you Aussies", what we have is a firewall that has been battered to the point of banning most of the world.

The UK is under some form of attack at the moment (probably mostly internally generated - no need to invoke bogeymen). We have seen quite a lot of anti racist activity recently and it is likely the nasty lot have been contained (hopefully).

The Commonwealth is always welcome here - that's why our mutual Queen (EIIR) created it. She got to grips with us proles rather well from around 1995 onwards when the Royal Family realised they have to engage with us lot.

Personally speaking, I've always thought of AU and NZ (SA etc) as mates. We might disagree about a few things and rugby and cricket and that. However we have more in common than not.

I have no doubt that the mood in AU and NZ is largely stirred with anti British sentiment (we see it here from Scotland, even though "modern Britain" was invented by a Scottish king - James 1 or VI).

NZ have often moved towards a silver fern on black flag. I say: why not - if that is your idea of your identity then crack on (it does look rather cool). Also, perhaps AU should rethink their flag - you go all in on gold and green. Ditch the blue thingie with the southern cross and the union flag in the top left - it doesn't suit you. ... or keep it because you can and proudly do whatever floats your boat. AU needs to sit down and take a really hard look at its flag and do what is best for AU.

The world is a messy place but let's keep it civil (and real).

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