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Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

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Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

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A reason for Airbnb I’m not seeing in the other comments: traveling with a dog is much easier with Airbnb than a hotel. I can find a fenced backyard and also have lots of indoor space.

I also choose airbnbs for cooking. We almost always choose a place with a grill, since our apartment doesn’t have one, and often a fire pit, too.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#52

I used to use Airbnb all the time but a single experience dealing with their customer service and a bad host was enough for me to never use them again. The lows of using Airbnb are 100x lower than the lows of hotels, and the highs are higher but not nearly enough to justify the risk.

The last occasions that I stayed at $200/night hotels, someone triggered the building fire alarms at 2:00 and 4:30 AM. Everyone was forced to evacuate until the fire department arrived (the alarm sirens were agonizingly loud). Still, I agree, the Airbnb roulette experience is often worse.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#53
post #17

Morbid thought of the evening: If there is a meaningful broader downturn I wonder if they'll benefit from people losing stable housing and turning to ABNB for itinerant shelter.

If I were a betting man, I would bet more people would lose overleveraged mortgages on their Airbnb properties before Airbnb gets a jolt from people in unstable housing situations.

Yes this will be the case.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#54
post #42

I'll rehash some of the complaints others have mentioned. Unless its a larger group, it really doesn't make sense to use vs. a hotel. Even if price is constant, there's just a bit more friction with AirBnB. Sometimes its easy, but other times you're trying to find the code that you have to enter for the key. Then I have to find the rules for the property to make sure I cleaned it according to their standards (while p…

The big difference for me is that Airbnbs have kitchens. Any trip more than 1-2 days in length is greatly improved when I can buy basic groceries and cook rather than have to eat every single meal at a restaurant. Because of that the overall cost works out to be cheaper as well.

There are extended stay hotels with stovetops and ovens (and outdoor grills) with low-grade used (ugh!) cookware included. It's usually not much more expensive than regular midtier hotels: possibly cheaper, if you can negotiate a longer term stay.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#55
Something else not mentioned here - there’s a strong incentive for both guests and hosts to use Airbnb as a way to find each other but not to book. I’m a host and I regularly get direct reach-outs from people who have found my listing on Airbnb, googled the name of my house, and reach out asking to book directly with me. Returning guests who did book through the platform always come back to me directly. Airbnb doesn’t deserve $200 from them and $100 from me for doing next to nothing.

This isn’t a sign that STRs are in trouble, people have been renting their second homes for a hundred years. This is a sign that the platforms are reaping what they sowed.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#56

I used to use Airbnb all the time but a single experience dealing with their customer service and a bad host was enough for me to never use them again. The lows of using Airbnb are 100x lower than the lows of hotels, and the highs are higher but not nearly enough to justify the risk.

I’m pretty happy with them. I’ve booked over 12 trips with my family using AirBnB. Last year we got a bad one though, dirty house, a lamp was stuck in the socket using wires instead of a plug. I reported this to AirBnB and they cancelled the reservation and refunded.

The only disadvantage of the customer service is that although you can do everything in Dutch, once customer service is involved you get called from some weird US phone number, but get an Indian outsourced helpdesk on the other side of the line - who don’t always speak good English.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#57
post #44

$2.75B revenue, up 11% YoY. $555M net income (20% margin). $1B free cash flow. $75B market cap (after the dip). Yes they may have missed analyst expectations, but AirBnb is still a very solid business. Not on its last legs as everyone here seems to be convinced.

Interesting. We're not taking into account the intangibles, aka people's perception. People are angrier than usual since they feel (and rightly so) they're being displaced from their places. Look at Portugal and Spain.

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#58
I haven’t seen the “reverse image search” issue mentioned. It is pretty common knowledge now that you can take photos from AirBNB listings and many times find a direct booking with the company that is listing. Not always, but this has saved me thousands across two trips so far this year. *weeklong stays in Maui, San Diego

Re: Airbnb shares drop 12% as company flags weakening US demand

#59
In Europe Airbnb seems to be much less popular, most people I know just use Booking.com which list private properties too. I use these quite often when I travel with my family and we intend to cook rather than go out (which is generally more healthy and less expensive, and when everybody helps, it doesn't take that much time).
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