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Photino: A lighter Electron

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Re: Photino: A lighter Electron

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3836293648 wrote: post #50
anaisbetts wrote: post #8

I cannot describe how Bad an idea it is to try to rely on the OS-provided web browser. We chose Electron at Slack, partly because of the numerous unfixable bugs with Slack for Mac for people on downlevel operating systems, and that was just on macOS! Telling people, "You need to install a new OS" or even in the case of macOS on old devices, "You need to buy a new computer", in response to a user writing in with a bug…

I can buy that using the OS-provided browser is a bad idea, but referencing slack is hardly confidence-inducing. Slack is by far the slowest and buggiest web app I've had the misfortune of being stuck with. And bundling it with chromium is an even worse idea given that the only way of getting half way decent performance with slack is opening the web version in Firefox (and specifically not Chrome). And yes, I've hear…

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Re: Photino: A lighter Electron

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Post by throwup238 »

3836293648 wrote: post #50
anaisbetts wrote: post #8

I cannot describe how Bad an idea it is to try to rely on the OS-provided web browser. We chose Electron at Slack, partly because of the numerous unfixable bugs with Slack for Mac for people on downlevel operating systems, and that was just on macOS! Telling people, "You need to install a new OS" or even in the case of macOS on old devices, "You need to buy a new computer", in response to a user writing in with a bug…

I can buy that using the OS-provided browser is a bad idea, but referencing slack is hardly confidence-inducing. Slack is by far the slowest and buggiest web app I've had the misfortune of being stuck with. And bundling it with chromium is an even worse idea given that the only way of getting half way decent performance with slack is opening the web version in Firefox (and specifically not Chrome). And yes, I've hear…

> I can buy that using the OS-provided browser is a bad idea, but referencing slack is hardly confidence-inducing.

It would be worse. They could have said Microsoft Teams.

> And yes, I've heard MS Teams is even slower, but I've never had to use it

Oh, dear.

Re: Photino: A lighter Electron

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Post by idle_zealot »

anaisbetts wrote: post #8

I cannot describe how Bad an idea it is to try to rely on the OS-provided web browser. We chose Electron at Slack, partly because of the numerous unfixable bugs with Slack for Mac for people on downlevel operating systems, and that was just on macOS! Telling people, "You need to install a new OS" or even in the case of macOS on old devices, "You need to buy a new computer", in response to a user writing in with a bug…

The way you capitalize words reminds me of the style used in newspapers and other writing from the 1800s. Is there a part of the world that still uses capitalization for... whatever you're doing? Or is that just a personal affectation?

Re: Photino: A lighter Electron

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Post by hollerith »

quotemstr wrote: post #23
saagarjha wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you going to pay for the extra RAM I need to run your VM too?

The success of Electron tells us that memory usage concerns are overblown. Memory is seriously dirty cheap nowadays. Time to spend a bit more to simplify the ecosystem.

I consider it a little perverse to say "simplify" and Electron in one sentence.

But my main point is that memory requires power so adding memory to a machine shortens battery life (or increases weight due to larger battery).

So far AFAIK no laptop maker has made a laptop that can power off half the RAM to decrease demand on the battery when only half the RAM is needed.

(Also, I do not like apps built on Electron and do not use any.)

Re: Photino: A lighter Electron

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Post by butz »

Is you already are writing .NET application, why not use UI library they provide and actually build a desktop application? You can even do pretty good optimizations when packaging such .NET app to reduce its size and even include runtime, to remove requirement for external dependencies.

Re: Photino: A lighter Electron

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Post by antifa »

krapp wrote: post #39
k__ wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? As far as I understood it, Tauri is a safer Electron, not a lighter one.

Isn't it both? Tauri is lighter because it doesn't bundle an entire Chromium instance for each app, rather it uses the native OS's existing webview.

Which gives it all the compatibility issues of each platform.
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