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Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by codr7 »

nforgerit wrote: post #18
gchamonlive wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, what do you mean?

I'll be getting downvoted for it but imho Ms never really cared about creating good software products and has been shoveling (at best) mediocrity through their wildly successful sales channels and through developing a stranglehold on public institutions (vendor lock-in). Azure is just another angle.

I know, but C# is quickly turning into my favorite socially acceptable back end language; and Visual Code is a decent editor, with awesome integrations, another winner.

Fucks sake.

At least Windows is quickly turning into exactly the kind of dumpster fire I would expect.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by hylaride »

JackSlateur wrote: post #22
gchamonlive wrote: post #2

Am I suffering from confirmation bias from HN bubble, or is Microsoft really going downhill?

When was the last time Microsoft was significantly better than the competition (on the tech side) ? To my knowledge, they always were between average and terrible, compared to their competitors

This is mostly immeasurable and unanswerable. They've had lots of good/better tech that's succeeded in the marketplace (Active Directory, DirectX) and hasn't (windows phone 8) for a whole variety of reasons.

They have tech that's solid, but more niche, like .NET/C# which is applied more in the enterprise than internet oriented software. The windows NT kernel is a solid piece of engineering compared to other OSes (it was originally designed/developed by Dave Cutler who came from DEC and did VMS and applied/improved a lot of the concepts there), but has often been hindered by shit thrown on top of it.

Microsoft has done a lot, both good and bad. But a lot of the reasons they're as successful as they are is for the "bad" stuff, like extreme support for backwards compatibility, getting "good enough" to market while other companies languished in perfectionism or distraction (cough cough apple before 2000).

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by vel0city »

Arch485 wrote: post #43
vel0city wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crowdstrike caused a Crowdstrike outage for systems running Crowdstrike. The vast majority of Microsoft products and services were not affected.

Except for a large part of Azure :)

The failures in the Central US region in Azure were entirely unrelated to Crowdstrike. It was the day before the Crowdstrike update rolled out.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by Gud »

skywhopper wrote: post #48
nickstinemates wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice of Linux was controversial when Azure was built. It caused a huge issue with the Windows Server team. But it's what customers wanted, and Azure was built very pragmatically.

Why would customers be concerned about what OS the service runs on? They want to be able to run Linux VMs but they don’t care what’s under the hood.

I would feel uncomfortable if my vm host ran Windows.

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Post by Nullabillity »

ryanmcbride wrote: post #50
skywhopper wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a meaningful difference?

yes, do you think it's not?

In common usage, "new outage" assumes generally assumes, well, new-as-compared-to-something-else. So yes, while the literal meanings are different, I'd interpret them as synonyms in this context.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by gchamonlive »

nickstinemates wrote: post #32
JackSlateur wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was the last time Microsoft was significantly better than the competition (on the tech side) ? To my knowledge, they always were between average and terrible, compared to their competitors

May we all aspire to be average and terrible and also the most valuable company in the world.

This notion of value is interesting.

It will kill the world while looking very good on the quarterly report.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by bobbob1921 »

lousken wrote: post #37
bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

There was an outage just before crowdstrike, google MO821132

Ouch , ok was not aware of this one. Thanks

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by raxxorraxor »

hughesjj wrote: post #39
bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

The day before crowdstrike a bunch of Azure services were down in us-central-1 and devops was down globally AFAIK https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41000822

Yesterday portal.azure.com wasn't reachable for a time, at least from the EU.
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