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When you're an expert at something and you spend all your days looking at these things, you can pick out remarkable details from nothing. Any regular person looking at the original photo (below) would have seen nothing! https://x.com/Warkslieutenant/status/1808884139585610231/pho... (it's the picture with the curved frame on the left)
my nephew is good at identifying teslas. "if the door handles are straight - S, together - X, hockey sticks - 3 or Y. No handles? cybertruck" :)
Huh. I share a surname with the original owner (Sheldon) and once researched Henry XIII for a people fair. I think that means I’m the rightful owner…
By British rules if you can smuggle it out of the country, it's legally yours. That's how they filled the British Museum.
As an aside, I really appreciated the BBC not loading twitter content by default and asking first. This is pretty amazing that such an offhanded catch led to a recovery of something assumed lost to history though.
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By British rules if you can smuggle it out of the country, it's legally yours. That's how they filled the British Museum.
That’s such a dumb comment. Back when the British was taking items back to the UK. There were no rules or systems in place for this stuff. You could buy it, trade it, steal it. It didn’t matter. And the UK isn’t the only country to ever do this. Laws were created to resolve/fix/prevent things happening. You can’t blame people for shit that happened before someone decided it’s wrong.
(I grant that the whole scope of modern Western European history and law is a immense and complex topic, but the prior poster, like my snark above, is addressing a very valid topic: using a lax regulatory system to become a dominant player, then imposing rules that protect the established players and make it very difficult for new entrants to match them is something that occurs on many scales and not automatically a good thing, nor is questioning it "dumb".)
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By British rules if you can smuggle it out of the country, it's legally yours. That's how they filled the British Museum.
That’s such a dumb comment. Back when the British was taking items back to the UK. There were no rules or systems in place for this stuff. You could buy it, trade it, steal it. It didn’t matter. And the UK isn’t the only country to ever do this. Laws were created to resolve/fix/prevent things happening. You can’t blame people for shit that happened before someone decided it’s wrong.
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Got you. I was just confused as to why a guy would commission paintings of a king for his own use but I didn't live in that era so maybe it was in vogue.
It's patriotic to have a picture of your royals in your home. You'd find pictures of The Royal Family in British homes, not so much now, but certainly photos of say Diana were fairly common in the 80s.
It makes me curious about this specific example if the painter copied another painting of the king or he managed to somehow get time with the king in order to know what he looks like for the commission.
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That’s such a dumb comment. Back when the British was taking items back to the UK. There were no rules or systems in place for this stuff. You could buy it, trade it, steal it. It didn’t matter. And the UK isn’t the only country to ever do this. Laws were created to resolve/fix/prevent things happening. You can’t blame people for shit that happened before someone decided it’s wrong.
You can , however, blame them for refusing to return the shit they stole.
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That’s such a dumb comment. Back when the British was taking items back to the UK. There were no rules or systems in place for this stuff. You could buy it, trade it, steal it. It didn’t matter. And the UK isn’t the only country to ever do this. Laws were created to resolve/fix/prevent things happening. You can’t blame people for shit that happened before someone decided it’s wrong.
Ah, so when the British stole stuff in the first place, that was fine. But once they had it, they created a rule that said "finders keepers!" and no one was allowed to take it away from them . (I grant that the whole scope of modern Western European history and law is a immense and complex topic, but the prior poster, like my snark above, is addressing a very valid topic: using a lax regulatory system to become a dom…
I think "Missing" is a pretty poor choice of word for this; "Presumed lost to history" would better explain what's happened - Which is both incredible and terribly dull at the same time! Somebody connected the dots on the provenance of a quite old painting that was venerated, but perhaps not as much as it should have been, not far from it's last known location - At least in distance, if not time. Great detective work…
> This was a piece that people knew existed How did people know it existed and hadn't been destroyed at some point if no one knew where it was for so many years?
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Ah, so when the British stole stuff in the first place, that was fine. But once they had it, they created a rule that said "finders keepers!" and no one was allowed to take it away from them . (I grant that the whole scope of modern Western European history and law is a immense and complex topic, but the prior poster, like my snark above, is addressing a very valid topic: using a lax regulatory system to become a dom…
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