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Schengen ain't what it used to be

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Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#51
post #15

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There are very serious checks, what are you talking about?

Where is evidence for very serious checks?

Sorry, you are the one making claims (which you edited a multiple times), so I won’t bother answering it more than this: you can read the immigration agencies web site for details.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#52
post #38

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Which middle eastern conflict did Austria take part in?

They contributed Troops to the ISAF troops in afgahnistan for example. Correction: wrote Usaf instead of ISAF

Link?

Not in the list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participants_in_Operation_Endu...

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#53
post #11

As a Dane living in Denmark, I don’t think it’s a big problem. We don’t show passports when entering Germany, only when returning to Denmark. And several times, if I forgot my passport, a driver’s license has been sufficient. Passport control is not really, if I have to be direct, aimed at the locals. Unfortunately, Schengen has made it easy for organized crime. On the simpler end, for example, bicycle theft, cargo b…

> We don’t show passports when entering Germany A FlixBus coming from Denmark is likely to be checked in Flensburg.

Ah okay. Didn’t know that. I’ve only crossed the border by plain or car

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#54
post #22

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>not with the farce that exists today where "asylum" is used is a get-out-of-jail free card The problem with the current asylum system is basically anyone can come in and say: "look, Russia, US, UK, France and coalition blew up my middle eastern country, so now countries like Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Austria who had nothing to do with it, need to give me asylum to me and my whole family, simple" which makes the s…

> Asylum today is basically: "look, Russia, US, UK, France and coalition blew up my middle eastern country, so now countries like Denmark No-no-no, Denmark took an active part in Iraq invasion and was also invaded Libya. Refugee crisis isn’t just about Syria.

Rintzler89 is still right though. Hardly any asylum seekers in eastern european countries because “nordic welfare” > “eastern european welfare”

Not an easy thing to fix

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#55
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They contributed Troops to the ISAF troops in afgahnistan for example. Correction: wrote Usaf instead of ISAF

Link? Not in the list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participants_in_Operation_Endu...

OEF != ISAF https://web.archive.org/web/20220120001326/http://www.nato.i...

OEF is an NATO Operation, Austrias policy is not to join any International primary Military Organization.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#56
The only solution I can think of is for Frontex to take full control of the external EU border. The way I see it, Frontex officers guarding the border would answer directly to Frontex (NOT to some national authority), would be paid by Frontex and, in case of misbehavior, would be prosecuted by an EU prosecutor.

This approach would greatly reduce the smuggling of illegal immigrants (which, in my opinion, happens because many Southern and - especially - Eastern national borders are porous due to easily bribable border guards). Sadly, I don’t see this happening anytime soon.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#57
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Link? Not in the list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participants_in_Operation_Endu...

OEF != ISAF https://web.archive.org/web/20220120001326/http://www.nato.i... OEF is an NATO Operation, Austrias policy is not to join any International primary Military Organization.

OK, good. So ... 3 soldiers

(about 20% of Tonga's contribution)

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#58
post #11

As a Dane living in Denmark, I don’t think it’s a big problem. We don’t show passports when entering Germany, only when returning to Denmark. And several times, if I forgot my passport, a driver’s license has been sufficient. Passport control is not really, if I have to be direct, aimed at the locals. Unfortunately, Schengen has made it easy for organized crime. On the simpler end, for example, bicycle theft, cargo b…

> We don’t show passports when entering Germany A FlixBus coming from Denmark is likely to be checked in Flensburg.

The busses get a lot more scrutiny.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#59
post #47

Border controls don't bother me much if they're just a quick check. Countries need to verify that who is coming in is who they say they are. My problem with Schengen Zone is that you can only spend 3 months there and have to leave. There was a time you could go to Europe and spend an entire year traveling country to country, now it's only a 3 months.

Visa hops are a normal, and usually accepted, thing tho. Ex. Thailand it's only 60 days. People still spend much longer there with short stops trough cheap AirAsia flights

What do you mean? Without a special visa you are only allowed 90 days in a 180 day period within Schengen. No visa hopping around it.

Re: Schengen ain't what it used to be

#60

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An inhabitant of an aging continent with less and less belief in its own future, slowly being consumed by racism and xenophobia despite being desperately in need of a foreign working force who doesn’t want to come and on the verge of succumbing once again to fascism rather than actually facing its own structural issue? Thank you, I think I know who I really am. Do you?

Yes, some people are awfully racist, and think even people from 100km away are insufferable

Yes, some people are woefully naive and think any kind of immigration is a net gain

Most people, thankfully, have a more balanced view of things

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