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Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Hopefully this paves the way for antitrust action, but I won't hold my breath.

Reddit's justification for this is profoundly wrong. Their "public content policy" is absurd doublespeak, and counter to everything the open internet is and hopes to be. You cannot simultaneously call yourself "open" and "public" while refusing access to automated clients. Every client is automated. They even go so far as to say that "crawling" (also known as "downloading") is an "abuse" and violates user privacy.

This is absurd, and not justified. I would love to see legislation that restricted server operators' ability to prohibit automated access in this way, but I suppose it will never happen. Some people in this thread have attempted to justify the policy by saying "they have to protect their income streams". No they don't. You don't have a right to an income stream, and you certainly don't have a right to lie in order to get all the benefits of an open internet with none of the downsides. Noting of course that the "downsides" are in this case actually just "competitors".

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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post #13

Reddit has been ripe for disruption for years. It's just waiting on an inflection point and someone to take it behind the barn.

The strange thing to me is how everybody keeps trying to make distributed Twitter happen when distributed Reddit is the low hanging fruit for federated social media. You don't want to end up banned from a movies forum because you also participate in a political forum. Federation solves that problem because you can use separate accounts without either forum knowing that you also use the other.

This exists with Lemmy already and is fostering nice communities (and due to ActivityPub is interoperable with Mastodon accounts)

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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post #13

Reddit has been ripe for disruption for years. It's just waiting on an inflection point and someone to take it behind the barn.

The network effects are too strong. Remember, the only reason Reddit "won" was because Digg destroyed itself with a radical upgrade that everyone hated. Reddit would have to do something similarly self-inflicted, and I can't even guess where people would go. Reddit was already an alternative to Digg -- what's the alternative to Reddit? I mean, it's certainly not Quora.

There is Lemmy for example, very similar to old Reddit. The big problem is the missing content outside of mainstream communities.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

#56

This is great. It means I won't see Reddit content popping up all over search results in other engines. Can Medium do the same? And perhaps Quora?

What a weird thing to say. Reddit has for a long time been a place where real people hang out and have real conversations, unlike quora and medium.

Its not strange to me. Every single time I've followed a Reddit link from search results, I've got a short and fairly useless conversation that doesn't help me at all. So I have never understood why people like it.

Obviously, people do see value in it, or they wouldn't keep saying so! I would happily exclude Reddit links from search results though.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

#58

This is great. It means I won't see Reddit content popping up all over search results in other engines. Can Medium do the same? And perhaps Quora?

What use do you get out of a search engine if not searching for reddit and other forums? The rest of the internet has become a cesspool of useless AI generated crap.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

#59

This is great. It means I won't see Reddit content popping up all over search results in other engines. Can Medium do the same? And perhaps Quora?

What a weird thing to say. Reddit has for a long time been a place where real people hang out and have real conversations, unlike quora and medium.

I think Reddit lost that kind of authenticity a while ago. Advertisers know the "search:reddit.com " trick, and when you look at the number of upvotes, it costs _pennies_ to get your product trending in the comments.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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site:reddit.com works for kagi for new posts this week?

From the second paragraph of the article:

> Searching for Reddit still works on Kagi, an independent, paid search engine that buys part of its search index from Google.

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