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Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by senkora »

nailer wrote: post #13
moralestapia wrote: post #5

(No intend for this to be a controversial statement) I only want to express my opinion that he (and the Democratic party) took a while to make this decision, to their detriment. Interesting to see who their new candidate is going to be.

The rules allow the DNC to have an open convention. They just haven’t had one for more than half a century. the interesting thing is apparently if they do that its available to all candidates. So it’s possible that somebody that is well liked by the public, but not by the DNC becomes the leader ie Bernie sanders. The tough thing though is that money donated to Biden doesn’t transfer to other candidates. The daily wir…

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by daseiner1 »

Sajarin wrote: post #25

> It’s a miracle, folks. Donald told the truth for once. It’s the most important election of our lifetimes. And I will win it. Curiously, his tweet from just 18 hours ago seemed like he was still in the race. I wonder what changed.

The timing of Joe Manchin declining to endorse this morning certainly correlates.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Timshel »

echelon wrote: post #28

Dang, this shouldn't be flagged. This is hugely important and relevant.

How the fuck does this end-up flagged ... There is over 90 upvotes does this not count ?

Where is the mythical vouch feature I could never find ? A yes I believe it's not yet dead, so you can't vouch ?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by daseiner1 »

nightowl_games wrote: post #49
bilekas wrote: post #22

This is wild. It seems super late in the game but okay. I'm super interested to see what will become of his chips act etc. The push he has tried to do to remove dependencies on TSMC is very forward thinking. Hopefully the next candidate takes up the momentum. Edit : Typo in TSMC

What's TMC

Obviously a typo for TSMC

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by trentnix »

antonvs wrote: post #14
trentnix wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That doesn’t follow at all. There’s a process for removing him if enough people in congress believed that it was an issue, but there’s no reason to do so at this point in the presidency. Even the Republicans aren’t likely to try that.

| there’s no reason to do so at this point in the presidency

The man is still the Commander-in-Chief. Anyone of limited mental faculties (which clearly describes President Biden), irrespective of their politics, should not be in the chair if they are not of sound mind. Consequently, I believe the responsible act would be for President Biden to resign the Presidency and allow his Vice President to take the mantle.

| Even the Republicans aren’t likely to try that.

I actually don't think it's in the Republicans best interest to do so. Tactically, the Democrats would be wise to let Kamala Harris sit in the Oval Office and make her the nominee. It would legitimize her as both a nominee and a candidate. Given that isn't happening, the cynic in me believes that suggests the Democrats don't want her as their candidate.

Regardless, the political machinations are irrelevant. It is irresponsible for Joe Biden to continue as President given he is obviously unfit to continue as the nominee.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by dwaltrip »

caminante wrote: post #35
black_knight wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He can do president duties, while the candidate they choose go around collecting votes.

That's the thing. If he's unfit to serve 6 months from now, then how is he fit to serve now? He didn't endorse Kamala in his letter. We'll see what comes out of the spin cycle this week. e: looks like Biden endorsed Kamala according to other publications

One could argue the chaos and uncertainty from upending his currently functional administration is not worth the upsides, while allowing for a natural transition via the standard election and end of term process is worth it.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by dsr_ »

This will be a much more relevant story on HN if it turns out that Elon Musk sent this rather than Biden.

(At the time that I write this, the only place this news is sourced from is Twitter. Every news org is quoting Twitter and then adding their own gloss.)

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by [deleted] »

gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by coffeecloud »

Sajarin wrote: post #25

> It’s a miracle, folks. Donald told the truth for once. It’s the most important election of our lifetimes. And I will win it. Curiously, his tweet from just 18 hours ago seemed like he was still in the race. I wonder what changed.

I think it was pretty widely understood that he was going to have to be adamantly in the race until the exact moment he wasn’t in the race. The second he showed any public wavering it would have been over.
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