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Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

neilv wrote: post #45
SquareWheel wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd image it's pretty typical analytics stuff. • Logging events for errors. • Seeing device statistics to know which browsers/devices to support/optimize for. • Reviewing page flows to understand how users navigate/understand the site. Is the navigation easy to understand? Are the right pages highly-visible? • Seeing which pages have high drop off rates, indicating either a resolution or lost hope. • Analyzing trends…

(Thanks for responding.) How can this not come from a self-hosted, secure and privacy-respecting, analytics tool? Even their existing normal HTTP/HTTPS Web server access logs give them all of the things you listed. Even at almost the start of the Web, they did. Google Tag Manager is a surveillance tool for the benefit of Google. And they pitch it to companies as: > Google Analytics lets you measure your advertising R…

I like where your head is at. I think you should file an issue in their repo suggesting its removal.

If there is a legitimate need for some of that functionality--which I think is plausible but not certain--then they may have an interesting response.

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by photonbeam »

HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #40
SoftTalker wrote: post #19

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And they'll accept anything from you without any ID whatsoever if you just use paper and a postage stamp.

What do you mean exactly?

The IRS doesnt require any auth if you print out whatever and mail it to them, no internet. They just believe you

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by Mistletoe »

benced wrote: post #4

The new tech stuff the government has been putting out is legitimately fantastic. login.gov is probably my favorite sign-in experience, maybe slightly behind Google's (and considerably ahead of Apple or Microsoft's).

I remember on some radio show many years back a program where tech people were going back to government to make the tech better. They interviewed the guy that started it and it was really inspiring. I wish I could remember more details. These are true patriots.

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by metalang »

Mistletoe wrote: post #53
benced wrote: post #4

The new tech stuff the government has been putting out is legitimately fantastic. login.gov is probably my favorite sign-in experience, maybe slightly behind Google's (and considerably ahead of Apple or Microsoft's).

I remember on some radio show many years back a program where tech people were going back to government to make the tech better. They interviewed the guy that started it and it was really inspiring. I wish I could remember more details. These are true patriots.

You might be thinking of the US Digital Service (https://www.usds.gov/)

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by polartx »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #49
vasco wrote: post #34

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It's funny we expect governments stuff to be so bad that when they do something at the level of a regular SaaS our minds are blown.

it's the virtuous cycle of Republicans running on the meme that the government is inherently bad, then using their power to make it worse

Oh look, only took 7 comments to find someone that is making the assertion that bad UX is a partisan issue.

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by throawayonthe »

polartx wrote: post #55
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's the virtuous cycle of Republicans running on the meme that the government is inherently bad, then using their power to make it worse

Oh look, only took 7 comments to find someone that is making the assertion that bad UX is a partisan issue.

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Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by eZpZpi »

polartx wrote: post #55
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's the virtuous cycle of Republicans running on the meme that the government is inherently bad, then using their power to make it worse

Oh look, only took 7 comments to find someone that is making the assertion that bad UX is a partisan issue.

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Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by SteveGerencser »

Mistletoe wrote: post #53
benced wrote: post #4

The new tech stuff the government has been putting out is legitimately fantastic. login.gov is probably my favorite sign-in experience, maybe slightly behind Google's (and considerably ahead of Apple or Microsoft's).

I remember on some radio show many years back a program where tech people were going back to government to make the tech better. They interviewed the guy that started it and it was really inspiring. I wish I could remember more details. These are true patriots.

People like Matt Cutts left Google to do exactly this. Much happier than when he was the head of the Google Search Spam team.

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by joquarky »

Mistletoe wrote: post #53
benced wrote: post #4

The new tech stuff the government has been putting out is legitimately fantastic. login.gov is probably my favorite sign-in experience, maybe slightly behind Google's (and considerably ahead of Apple or Microsoft's).

I remember on some radio show many years back a program where tech people were going back to government to make the tech better. They interviewed the guy that started it and it was really inspiring. I wish I could remember more details. These are true patriots.

https://codeforamerica.org/ sounds similar

Re: A search engine by and for the federal government

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Post by ulrischa »

leononame wrote: post #36
ulrischa wrote: post #35

A cool thing. In Germany this would not be possible. EVB-IT Cloud contracts, DSGVO and other legal stuff slow down everything and costs are exploding. No inhouse ressources available double the trouble

I have s feeling GDPR is often used as an excuse in these cases while there is little evidence that it's actually slowing anything down. Especially for government: they do have the data alread and the GDPR applies to the dat itself, not whether you put a fancy frontend on it or not. Government departments tend to be slow to adopt - again, based on feeling more than hard evidence - especially emin Germany. They'll jus…

I know about EVB-IT and GDPR. And it is actually slowing down a lot. While each of these things can be managed the combination is a productive killer. You will understand this if you ever worked as a it-project manager in the German goverment. There is a representative for everything and he is just doing his part and blocking everything not in his work field. It is not something like GDPR alone but the combination and the handling of these aspects. And law aspects always get the highest proirority.
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