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We're talking about a company's actions, why does vote matter?
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We’re not talking about the government here though
Ties between Google's Project Nimbus and Israel's military
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> neverending hollywood holocaust propaganda In what way is there hollywood holocaust propaganda? You feel like the events described in the holocaust didn't really take place that way or do you think we should tone them down quite a bit because they "help" Israel too much?
Bingo. The US was complicit in the Holocaust by not admitting Jews before the war.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/voyage-of-...
But you're right: they're "tired of hearing about the Holocaust." I'll bet they are.
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#56... and the problem is? The US is supporting Israel and supplying it with weapons. Neither Presidential candidate has any intention of changing that, nor is there majority Congressional support for changing it.
Many Googlers are not comfortable with that. Lots of them are immigrants who understandably don't want to be associated with US-endorsed genocide.
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yeah you're right, it's a nakba. something far worse. once the sanctions come down the american public will get learned on their history.
The Nakba was a Nakba because the countries surrounding Israel lost the war after they attacked Israel. Indeed they probably had genocidal ambitions.
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yeah you're right, it's a nakba. something far worse. once the sanctions come down the american public will get learned on their history.
The Nakba was a Nakba because the countries surrounding Israel lost the war after they attacked Israel. Indeed they probably had genocidal ambitions.
The Nakba was (and still is) a Nakba because ...
The colonizers sought to impose an objectively unfair partition plan (granting them far more valuable territory and resources in proportion to their population at the time), with the muscular support of their European friends.
The Palestinians rejected this "proposal" outright of course, exactly as any self-respecting people would. Exactly as the Algerians rejected France's proposed "partition" of their historic homeland, and the Vietnamese (by and large) rejected America's proposed carve-out of theirs, etc (just to pick a few notable exactly from approximately the same time frame).
And yes, they made some poor choices of friends (as they readily acknowledge), and woefully miscalculated their own strengths and capabilities and so on. And then there are other factors you're carefully not mentioning, such as the expulsions and massacres already underway in Jaffa, Deir-Yassin and elsewhere before this supposedly entirely unprovoked and one-sided "attack".
But there's no reason to keep punishing the current population for these decisions, and exploiting this history (and the continuing indifference of both their so-called friends in the Arab world and the international community at large) for the sake of current and future land gains. Which is basically what the continuing (having of course never really ended) Nakba (that certain very notable public figures are proudly and openly hoping to officially upgrade to Nakba 2.0, in their own words -- do we need to name any names here?) is really about.
And whatever is happening in the ground today (and however much blame can justly attributed to both sides) -- there's nothing to be gained from nullifying history, or reducing it to such trite oversimplifications as in the parent comment.
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#59... and the problem is? The US is supporting Israel and supplying it with weapons. Neither Presidential candidate has any intention of changing that, nor is there majority Congressional support for changing it.
Many Googlers are not comfortable with that. Lots of them are immigrants who understandably don't want to be associated with US-endorsed genocide.
Googler opinions are all over the map. Not all immigrants are Muslim, you'll find Jewish ones also, and it isn't surprising their opinions would differ.
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#60... and the problem is? The US is supporting Israel and supplying it with weapons. Neither Presidential candidate has any intention of changing that, nor is there majority Congressional support for changing it.
Example of how punctuation can make all the difference... '... and the problem is: The US is supporting Israel and supplying it with weapons. Neither Presidential candidate has any intention of changing that, nor is there majority Congressional support for changing it.' The american people are mostly against israel and sending billions to israel. And yet nearly all of congress, presidential candidates, etc are in fav…
> The american people are mostly against israel and sending billions to israel. And yet nearly all of congress, presidential candidates, etc are in favor of it. Something is awry with representative government when nearly 100% of the politicians are not representative of the american people.
Conservatives are becoming more isolationist, and would just prefer Arabs and the Middle East descend into a huge war without American involvement. Some liberals take Palestinian sides, but most Americans are actually fairly negative on it right now, with the belief that Hamas is intentionally using its own people as human shields. Politically speaking, there is more sympathy by Americans for Israel than Gaza, but there is a lot of cynicism since it seems like real solutions are not going to happen in our lifetime.