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The only tourist in Moldova

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Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi: Including "the" changes the meaning - it alludes to imperial language aking to calling the nation The Periphery.

I am not sure what you are talking about. Could you please elaborate? EDIT: Found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthogra... now. Thanks for the correction!

The Ukraine is a translation of Imperial Russia's name for the country. Whereas Ukraine is the self-selected name for the Sovereign Nation.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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post #4

"bald and bankrupt" take on this (2019) was enlightening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnDxHTaeNX0

I've been to Moldova a couple of times and after watching the video I'd like to offer my take on it.

Some parts are really on-point - especially the wall of thieves - and I understand it's hard to present an objective perspective of the country after one visit and without having a more thorough deep-dive into its past 30 years (and don't get me wrong, I don't expect tourists to do that for their travel destinations) - but take the video with a (big) grain of salt.

While I understand it's not the most "visit-able" country in the world, the people I've met have been nothing but wonderful and I've developed a deep respect for them, especially in light of all the challenges they've faced.

My 2 cents: If you don't feel confident enough to visit Moldova yet, maybe try their wines, they're not too shabby (this is not an alcohol commercial, please drink responsibly).

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi: Including "the" changes the meaning - it alludes to imperial language aking to calling the nation The Periphery.

I am not sure what you are talking about. Could you please elaborate? EDIT: Found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthogra... now. Thanks for the correction!

Sorry, how does that refute anything?

The point is that in English, adding the definite article makes it sound like a region rather than a country: "the mountains", "the veldt", "the border land".

Removing the article is appropriate for a country, unless grammatically necessary like "The United States of America", but not "The America" or "The Germany".

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure what you are talking about. Could you please elaborate? EDIT: Found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthogra... now. Thanks for the correction!

Sorry, how does that refute anything? The point is that in English, adding the definite article makes it sound like a region rather than a country: "the mountains", "the veldt", "the border land". Removing the article is appropriate for a country, unless grammatically necessary like " The United States of America", but not "The America" or "The Germany".

Misread the paragraph first, then edited the edit. Sorry!

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi: Including "the" changes the meaning - it alludes to imperial language aking to calling the nation The Periphery.

I am not sure what you are talking about. Could you please elaborate? EDIT: Found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthogra... now. Thanks for the correction!

Nowadays people prefer to call the country "Ukraine", rather "the Ukraine". I admit I've made that mistake more than a few times.

See here for some backstory and history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Ukraine

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Another place I'd like to go is Kyrgyzstan. And Turkmenistan. Why? Because no one goes there. What other reason do you need?

Kyrgyzstan is a good place to take in a game of kok buru, which I found endlessly entertaining - much more fun than football.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Central Asia still remains largely untouristed. I loved this article from the New York Times concerning a boy who taught himself Russian and then went to Kazakhstan with his father to immerse himself.

The Foreign Language That Changed My Teenage Son’s Life https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/17/magazine/russian-language...

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Moldova is sandwiched between NATO (Romania) the active war in Ukraine. Please avoid, and if you cannot then please prepare to take care of yourself should things heat up. Every time a conflict starts there are tourists demanding their home countries send helicopters to rescue them. At least remember to register your exact location and details with your embassy. And have a car. Be ready to drive yourself should the trains/power be cut. If you are adverse to driving, keep enough food/water/shoes on hand for a multi-day walk should that be necessary.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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I wonder what will happen to them if Ukraine loses to Russia. I have heard Moldova already has issues with Russian separatists. EDIT: Changed an offensive use of a definitive article. ;)

You're thinking of Transnistria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

The history of that area is complex. Moldova itself was part of the Ottoman Empire, then it was ceded to the Russian Empire, united with Romania, then the whole are became part of the USSR... and after the dissolution of the USSR, Transnistria became an unregognized, but de facto autonomous "country". Moldovians see the area as still part of Moldova (with some still considering the whole country as part of Romania!). The EU sees it as a Russian-occupied area since Russia supports the local government, and without Russian support the Moldavian Government would've probably taken over the area already (it's a frozen conflict area... Eastern Ukraine is headed for the same destiny, it seems).

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