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The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by agalunar »

Terr_ wrote: post #30

> The interpunct is still in use today [...] decimal point [...] dot product [...] separate titles, names, and positions Some·times it is it al·so seen To cla·ri·fy the way That syl·la·bles and me·ter meet In things we say to·day Which ex·tends from hea·vy use In pla·ces not so mer·ry For proof of this phen·o·men·on Con·sult a dic·tion·ary

Those aren’t syllable divisions, they’re hyphenation points!

From the footnote on page 219 of Word by Word by Kory Stamper (formerly a lexicographer at Merriam-Webster):

> Here is the one thing that our pronunciation editor wishes everyone knew: those dots in the headwords, like at “co·per·nic·i·um,” are not marking syllable breaks, as is evident by comparing the placement of the dots with the placement of the hyphens in the pronunciation. Those dots are called “end-of-line division dots,” and they exist solely to tell beleaguered proof-readers where, if they have to split a word between lines, they can drop a hyphen.

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by agalunar »

Terr_ wrote: post #30

> The interpunct is still in use today [...] decimal point [...] dot product [...] separate titles, names, and positions Some·times it is it al·so seen To cla·ri·fy the way That syl·la·bles and me·ter meet In things we say to·day Which ex·tends from hea·vy use In pla·ces not so mer·ry For proof of this phen·o·men·on Con·sult a dic·tion·ary

To save someone the lookup, this is:

    U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT = midpoint (in typography); Georgian comma; Greek middle dot (ano teleia) • also used as a raised decimal point or to denote multiplication; for multiplication 22C5 is preferred
But note there is a separate Unicode scalar value for the dot operator:

    U+22C5 DOT OPERATOR • preferred to 00B7 for denotation of multiplication

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by nuancebydefault »

agalunar wrote: post #43

The title of the submission should be changed to “Type in Wall·E”, “Typesetting in Wall·E”, or “Typography in Wall·E”; the word “typeset” is a verb or past participle, not a noun.

In fact what they meant is 'typeface' , a fancy word for what's often (wrongly) referred to as 'font'.

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by bityard »

crazygringo wrote: post #32
Log_out_ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldnt care about the money but i would care about the credits.

Fun fact: long credits at the end of the movie were invented by George Lucas for American Graffiti in 1973 [1]. He didn't have the money to pay everyone so he offered to put their names in the credits instead. And thus started a new chapter in the exploitation of film crews, where you don't get paid enough but hey, at least your name is in the credits. All the other producers were immediately like -- that's a genius…

Could the origin of Exposure Bucks?

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe these days the various film-industry unions essentially require individual credits for anybody who even tangentially had anything to do with working on the film or on the set of a film. E.g., I'm pretty sure I've seen the names of catering staff in movie credits.

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by bityard »

pvorb wrote: post #46

Really nice article! I'm not sure about the poster though. This is not necessarily communist, as this was just the style of propaganda posters of all kinds, that came up in the first half of the 20th century. Personally, it reminds me more of a Nazi poster for the army, which includes tanks that look similar to these robots: https://c8.alamy.com/compde/r90frb/ss-freiwilligen-panzer-gr...

A few of the claims were certainly a bold stretch, including this one. But yeah, it's a fun read regardless.

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by a_e_k »

mottosso wrote: post #36
crazygringo wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: long credits at the end of the movie were invented by George Lucas for American Graffiti in 1973 [1]. He didn't have the money to pay everyone so he offered to put their names in the credits instead. And thus started a new chapter in the exploitation of film crews, where you don't get paid enough but hey, at least your name is in the credits. All the other producers were immediately like -- that's a genius…

I still remember my first credit in a blockbuster production, after a first few years in TV advertising that name no names, and it was exhilarating. My name is since forever embedded into the artwork we all worked towards. I was also paid, but with that money now long gone I just wanted to highlight that there is value not just in money.

I also like that I can point to my production credits as public proof of employment history.

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by joering2 »

"A Wuppertal Schwebebahn monorail train arrives at the Werther Brücke station in Wuppertal, 1913."

Somewhat off topic, but stuff like this always leads me back to this reconstructed video from 1902. It feels like you almost there. I cannot fantom all these people walking peacefully now are dead, and they never heard of silicon circuit, let alone internet or an iPad. Worth watching once or twice a year it always makes me appreciate my life just few inches more...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQfPyx_678g

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by parpfish »

autoexec wrote: post #48
jhbadger wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's amazing. I always wondered about watching old (1930s-1950s) movies where they would give credits to the lead cast at the start and just end with a "The End" card with no credits. I always wondered if they just cut the credits off, but I guess they never existed!

I'm just glad they stopped putting so many opening credits in films. It's basically insufferable to watch old movies with 10+minutes of opening credits. I'm annoyed by the 3-5 minutes of production credits at the start of movies today as it is.

That’s ALSO a George Lucas thing. Not having the directors name in the opening of Empire got him kicked out of the director’s guild

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-george-lucas-quit-dga-empir...

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by parpfish »

autoexec wrote: post #49
pvorb wrote: post #47

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I'm always amazed by how long video game credits got over the years.

I'm glad to see people recognized for their work, even in such a small way though. As they continue to scroll and you start to see titles like "2nd assistant to the HR Team Lead" I can't help but wonder how much is bloat and how much improved the games might be if the teams were leaner. I'm also torn on the concept of "production babies" which is basically just acknowledging that some parent was forced to abandon the…

I assume that a large number of people in video game and movie credits just did part time work or a short project and they weren’t exclusive with this particular project

Like when you list the accountants, is it that those accountants were working ONLY on this project or was this one of a dozen things they were handling at the time?

Re: The Typeset of Wall·E (2018)

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Post by adamomada »

autoexec wrote: post #48
jhbadger wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's amazing. I always wondered about watching old (1930s-1950s) movies where they would give credits to the lead cast at the start and just end with a "The End" card with no credits. I always wondered if they just cut the credits off, but I guess they never existed!

I'm just glad they stopped putting so many opening credits in films. It's basically insufferable to watch old movies with 10+minutes of opening credits. I'm annoyed by the 3-5 minutes of production credits at the start of movies today as it is.

Seth MacFarlane nailed it https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5q3ICKPbY&t=345
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