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Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

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Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.

cursor-addressing uis likely have a higher barrier to entry (both for developers and users), so they are not suffering from the regression to the mean that has made modern guis absolutely unusable. that, and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.

I take it you haven't heard about: https://charm.sh/

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

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post #51
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cursor-addressing uis likely have a higher barrier to entry (both for developers and users), so they are not suffering from the regression to the mean that has made modern guis absolutely unusable. that, and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.

I take it you haven't heard about: https://charm.sh/

Interesting that Website reliably crashes mobile Firefox (nightly and release) and brave for me.

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

#53

Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.

Not really. There is an ancient curses-based spreadsheet program called "sc" (spreadsheet calculator).

It sounds like "scim" is to "sc" vaguely like "vim" is to "vi": new program with more features cloning/imitating ancient program.

"vi" was written by Bill Joy in 1979.

"sc" by James Gosling in 1981.

sc-im claims to be based on "sc".

It's a direct lineage unrelated to GUI spreadsheets.

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

#54

Btw SCIM is the name of the standard for cross-domain identity management. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_for_Cross-domain_Iden... Might affect searchability.

It's technically `sc-im` not SCIM, because it forked a spreadsheet program from 1981 called `sc`

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sc-im

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

#56
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you haven't heard about: https://charm.sh/

Interesting that Website reliably crashes mobile Firefox (nightly and release) and brave for me.

Works fine on my Pixel 7a using the release version of Firefox (I won't dare touch Brave), fwiw.

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

#57

Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.

Not really. There is an ancient curses-based spreadsheet program called "sc" (spreadsheet calculator). It sounds like "scim" is to "sc" vaguely like "vim" is to "vi": new program with more features cloning/imitating ancient program. "vi" was written by Bill Joy in 1979. "sc" by James Gosling in 1981. sc-im claims to be based on "sc". It's a direct lineage unrelated to GUI spreadsheets.

Gosling wrote sc? I had no idea. I was an scim user before moving to visidata like another poster mentioned, so I kinda-sorta feel like an sc user.

For those who don't know, James Gosling invented a popular VM-based "write once, test everywhere" programming language named after a tree. Then named after a coffee.

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

#58

Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.

It reminded me of The Twin spreadsheet from the late 1980s. I worked at a plastics plant that used it in their color lab until at least 2013 when I left. There were thousands of color recipes and no one wanted to try and convert all of that to a newer spreadsheet.

https://forum.winworldpc.com/discussion/7590/software-spotli...

Re: SCIM: Ncurses based, Vim-like spreadsheet

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post #20

Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.

cursor-addressing uis likely have a higher barrier to entry (both for developers and users), so they are not suffering from the regression to the mean that has made modern guis absolutely unusable. that, and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.

> and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.

Depends where you look.

https://davideellis.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/ibm-tivoli-moni...

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