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Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by Solololo »

OJFord wrote: post #21
jjmarr wrote: post #11

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I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. The process of reality getting abstracted to the point abstractions stop being representative of reality is extremely common in software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality A hyperreal workplace is one where representations of reality take precedence over reality itself, and the reality of a situation ceases to have meaning. i.e. One where people…

Whenever I want to feel completely stupid, I just open a Wikipedia page on some philosophical term/idea and go down a rabbit hole of links that it's a concept in/argument against/etc. Just completely impenetrably baffling to me in a way that other fields like chemistry or microbiology or physics or whatever (despite also not being my own) aren't. Not that I understand them, but they're penetrable , I can read more an…

It can be a grand number of things, but lack of the highschool curriculum is unlikely to be one of them, in my opinion. Rest assured, you're far from the only one struggling, I'd say most people I've encountered in academic philosophy tend to struggle a tad more with it than (their) other fields of studies. It is what it is, really, it sort of comes with the territory.

Of course there are just some that are less accessible than others, due to writing style or size of their philosophical project (Hegel is an example of both of those qualities). A lot of French philosophy since the second world war, Baudrillard being no exception, is generally characterized as such as well amongst the anglo audience, although I don't think that this is entirely fair.

I'd say the best thing you can do is never attempt to understand it through Wikipedia, but pick up a full book instead and read it a second time if the argument doesn't make sense the first time. Of course there are some authors I would avoid as a beginner, but someone like Kant is fine for even your first philosopher, and is amongst the biggest names in modern philosophy. Prolegomena and Critique of Pure Reason are two books of his about the same thing written in two opposite ways, the former from easy to difficult, the latter vice versa, I always recommend those.

Sartre and Wittgenstein are both somewhat odd for a contemporary philosophy course. I'm curious why they chose that arrangement. Nevertheless, being able to hold a conversation about either of them is already quite solid, plus you get three philosophers for the price of two! :)

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

#52

Post by Solololo »

pdonis wrote: post #39
orwin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is, that's at best a misunderstanding, but more likely a strawman. The only point on which all post-modernists agree is a refutation of meta-narratives (and to be explicit: "here is no reality out there, it's all just human-created abstractions" is a meta-narrative). A very, very charitable interpretation is that you are maybe conflating it with Frankfurt School of critical…

> That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is It's not what post-modernists typically say post-modernism is. But I'm not relying on what they say it is. I've read enough post-modernism to form my own opinion. > Read and think by yourself. I have. See above.

Who did you read?

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

#53

Post by ocodo »

nunez wrote: post #50
Spooky23 wrote: post #18

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You need to learn to game it. People care about this stuff are usually stupid. When I led a large support organization I had an SVP who really cared about open incident duration. His pattern for giving a fuck was predictable. My strategy was to hold certain tickets in an undead state (not impacting the metric), then reopen them and close them, demonstrating a metric improvement. He got his improvement and big shot st…

It's less stupidity and more "if we don't prove that we meet x control in y compliance framework, our auditors will deem us non-compliant and we will be fined into oblivion"

I mean, it's still stupidity, but it's upstream stupidity with the ability to punish.

So, snafu.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

#54

Post by TSP00N3 »

jjmarr wrote: post #11
dexwiz wrote: post #3

No matter the industry, it sucks to have someone managing by dashboard. In classic post modernism, the signifier replaces the signified. If anything, it’s a great signal to the employee that it’s time to start looking elsewhere.

I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. The process of reality getting abstracted to the point abstractions stop being representative of reality is extremely common in software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality A hyperreal workplace is one where representations of reality take precedence over reality itself, and the reality of a situation ceases to have meaning. i.e. One where people…

I think rather than calling it post structuralism or hyper reality, we can just look at goodharts law[0] for the general understanding that metrics cease to be useful when they become the thing that leadership looks at. Like Spooky23 and others are saying in other comments, once you learn that it’s all a game you can use it to your advantage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart's_law

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by raiyni »

nsxwolf wrote: post #36
ars wrote: post #24

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I use Sonar all the time, but not during build. It runs live while I'm editing a file. I've not noticed any slowdown at all, and it's certainly a quick feedback loop (it runs when I save the file). I've found the majority of its suggestions helpful, and the ones that are not I simply ignore.

It adds about 2 minutes to our gitlab pipelines but the major issue with it is when organizations decide failures should prevent merging code to master or even deploying to a QA environment. That's the real time sink - figuring out how to get past it. It's a lot more than 2 minutes, sometimes even days if it's something you can't work around and have to go through the red tape if your team isn't empowered to take cha…

You think 2 minutes is bad, try using fortify. Scans can easily be hours.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by feoren »

OJFord wrote: post #21
jjmarr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. The process of reality getting abstracted to the point abstractions stop being representative of reality is extremely common in software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality A hyperreal workplace is one where representations of reality take precedence over reality itself, and the reality of a situation ceases to have meaning. i.e. One where people…

Whenever I want to feel completely stupid, I just open a Wikipedia page on some philosophical term/idea and go down a rabbit hole of links that it's a concept in/argument against/etc. Just completely impenetrably baffling to me in a way that other fields like chemistry or microbiology or physics or whatever (despite also not being my own) aren't. Not that I understand them, but they're penetrable , I can read more an…

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Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by Log_out_ »

pdonis wrote: post #39
orwin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is, that's at best a misunderstanding, but more likely a strawman. The only point on which all post-modernists agree is a refutation of meta-narratives (and to be explicit: "here is no reality out there, it's all just human-created abstractions" is a meta-narrative). A very, very charitable interpretation is that you are maybe conflating it with Frankfurt School of critical…

> That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is It's not what post-modernists typically say post-modernism is. But I'm not relying on what they say it is. I've read enough post-modernism to form my own opinion. > Read and think by yourself. I have. See above.

Come on,you goto fill his/her plotholes else your evil. Remember its not an ism,if its about who can outshout reality the loudest.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by watwut »

pdonis wrote: post #39
orwin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is, that's at best a misunderstanding, but more likely a strawman. The only point on which all post-modernists agree is a refutation of meta-narratives (and to be explicit: "here is no reality out there, it's all just human-created abstractions" is a meta-narrative). A very, very charitable interpretation is that you are maybe conflating it with Frankfurt School of critical…

> That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is It's not what post-modernists typically say post-modernism is. But I'm not relying on what they say it is. I've read enough post-modernism to form my own opinion. > Read and think by yourself. I have. See above.

> It's not what post-modernists typically say post-modernism is. But I'm not relying on what they say it is. I've read enough post-modernism to form my own opinion.

You are relying what someone who earns money from making people angry about postmodernism say it is. Outrage culture and addiction.

Generally when you want to know what postmodernism is, you should read what postmodernists say. And if you want to know what nazism is, you should include readings of nazists.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

#59

Post by ch_123 »

Any sort of static analysis/linting tools will occasionally make bad/unhelpful/stupid suggestions, some moreso than others. At any place where I've had to use such tools, I've always had the ability to either tweak the settings, or have a conversation with the people who decide them and make appropriate changes. In this case, it sounds like bad culture and/or bad colleagues are driving this person to despair, and not Sonar as per se.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

#60

Post by orwin »

pdonis wrote: post #39
orwin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is, that's at best a misunderstanding, but more likely a strawman. The only point on which all post-modernists agree is a refutation of meta-narratives (and to be explicit: "here is no reality out there, it's all just human-created abstractions" is a meta-narrative). A very, very charitable interpretation is that you are maybe conflating it with Frankfurt School of critical…

> That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is It's not what post-modernists typically say post-modernism is. But I'm not relying on what they say it is. I've read enough post-modernism to form my own opinion. > Read and think by yourself. I have. See above.

> It's not what post-modernists typically say post-modernism is

Worse, it's the total opposite of one core tenet of postmodernism. It's very hard for anybody honest to argue that postmodernism has ametanarrative, when the only thing all authors agree with is that metanarratives are to be recognized and refuted.

> I've read enough post-modernism to form my own opinion.

Who did you read? Deleuze? Derrida? Foucault? Baudrillard?

I will always advise people to read Baudrillard first, I think he is somehow misunderstood in the Anglo world, but it might be mistranslations. Then Deleuze, then Lyotard and Foucault as Derrida is too dispersed imho, and way to complex, as imho you have to read his articles where he explain his books, alongside his books [edit: and to be fair I still don't think I really get Derrida, he's very recognized but to me he is very obscure, probably the weakest imho. I also disagree with a lot I understand from him, except his method, so that's might be my priors who prevents me to really getting it].

If anyone would rather read a novel to try to grasp what postmodernism is about, I think "l'Amour" from begaudeau is the latest (100 pages, really short and sweet), and the one that is still in my mind when I think about postmodern materialism.

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