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Re: Figma AI

#51

Post by kristopolous »

karaterobot wrote: post #3

Watching the keynote, the feature where it spits out a design based on a prompt seems like a gimmick. If it doesn't work with MY design system (as opposed to curated design systems like MUI or Bootstrap or whatever) then it's useless. It's also probably not ready to design complex applications, as opposed to brochure websites and apps that fit into very common templates. The AI-powered search features seem really pro…

most projects are pretty generic. I've been on countless where they just want something that looks like everything else. If this can deliver that and I can do it without having to contract out a designer, it's a win.

Re: Figma AI

#52

Post by karaterobot »

klabb3 wrote: post #12

Is it just me or did gen AI allow companies to cheat a lot more with their demos/showcases? I feel like there’s absolutely no way to tell if what’s shown is representative, cherry-picked or outright faked. I mean, it’s non-reproducible by nature, so it even gives plausible deniability to unscrupulous marketing departments. I’d rather watch a YouTuber or streamer do a real project in a tool too see if and how it works…

If you watched the keynote, it was pretty clearly not cherry-picked or faked. It didn't come up with perfect images or text every time. It felt very much like what happens when you enter a prompt into a chat-based AI.

As additional proof that it was not faked, the CEO was clearly distracted by the notifications from hundreds of people requesting access to the live file he was demoing from, which was a pretty good live demo moment.

Re: Figma AI

#53

Post by hbosch »

kristopolous wrote: post #51
karaterobot wrote: post #3

Watching the keynote, the feature where it spits out a design based on a prompt seems like a gimmick. If it doesn't work with MY design system (as opposed to curated design systems like MUI or Bootstrap or whatever) then it's useless. It's also probably not ready to design complex applications, as opposed to brochure websites and apps that fit into very common templates. The AI-powered search features seem really pro…

most projects are pretty generic. I've been on countless where they just want something that looks like everything else. If this can deliver that and I can do it without having to contract out a designer, it's a win.

The race is on. What will AI deliver first...? Production-ready code so PMs don't need engineers, or production-ready designs so PMs don't need designers?

The reality is that without domain experts (design, research, engineering, business, law) you're left trusting the AI to make the decision without a good way to check if it made the right one.

Re: Figma AI

#54

Post by alfalfasprout »

hbosch wrote: post #53
kristopolous wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most projects are pretty generic. I've been on countless where they just want something that looks like everything else. If this can deliver that and I can do it without having to contract out a designer, it's a win.

The race is on. What will AI deliver first...? Production-ready code so PMs don't need engineers, or production-ready designs so PMs don't need designers? The reality is that without domain experts (design, research, engineering, business, law) you're left trusting the AI to make the decision without a good way to check if it made the right one.

Oh you'll find out alright... when it's too late. I'm just waiting for a year or two from now when companies realize what a colossal hole they dug themselves in using a bunch of AI generated crap in production.

We're already seeing it with marketing copy.

Re: Figma AI

#55

Post by kristopolous »

hbosch wrote: post #53
kristopolous wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most projects are pretty generic. I've been on countless where they just want something that looks like everything else. If this can deliver that and I can do it without having to contract out a designer, it's a win.

The race is on. What will AI deliver first...? Production-ready code so PMs don't need engineers, or production-ready designs so PMs don't need designers? The reality is that without domain experts (design, research, engineering, business, law) you're left trusting the AI to make the decision without a good way to check if it made the right one.

Design is different. It's become literally just whatever the boss likes.

You can tell me about the math, theories and laws but look around you, nobody cares about those any more.

Re: Figma AI

#56

Post by alfalfasprout »

iknowSFR wrote: post #4

Every AI tool being released by 3rd parties is being blacklisted by my company. The primary reasoning is around sharing data with tool itself. On the other hand, if my clients allow them, there’s a long review and approval process followed by continuous audits. Is anyone else running into this at their companies? I look at these tools and get excited but I’m continuously being blocked from using for work.

Yep lots of companies are (rightfully) being careful about 3rd party AI tools. You're sending valuable company assets or in some cases even PII (though probably not for Figma) to another party and you're basically hoping they aren't being careless.

Total security (and possibly legal) nightmare.

Re: Figma AI

#57

Post by choppaface »

jjcm wrote: post #11
karaterobot wrote: post #3

Watching the keynote, the feature where it spits out a design based on a prompt seems like a gimmick. If it doesn't work with MY design system (as opposed to curated design systems like MUI or Bootstrap or whatever) then it's useless. It's also probably not ready to design complex applications, as opposed to brochure websites and apps that fit into very common templates. The AI-powered search features seem really pro…

PM here for Make Designs. > If it doesn't work with MY design system (as opposed to curated design systems like MUI or Bootstrap or whatever) then it's useless You hit the nail on the head. This our #1 focus for this team moving forward. If you noticed in the keynote, Dylan highlighted Chen Chen and the Google Material team, both of whom created generators for their design systems. They work, but they were hard to ma…

Are you really shooting to generate something full-fidelity? Or rather provide lower fidelity but empower the user to spitball and maybe test light interaction?

And if it is full fidelity, how do you ensure users actually own the copyright at the end of the day?

Re: Figma AI

#58

Post by Hoasi »

kristopolous wrote: post #55
hbosch wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The race is on. What will AI deliver first...? Production-ready code so PMs don't need engineers, or production-ready designs so PMs don't need designers? The reality is that without domain experts (design, research, engineering, business, law) you're left trusting the AI to make the decision without a good way to check if it made the right one.

Design is different. It's become literally just whatever the boss likes. You can tell me about the math, theories and laws but look around you, nobody cares about those any more.

> You can tell me about the math, theories and laws but look around you, nobody cares about those any more.

It's true. Just a few years back, design thinking was all the rage. Nowadays, even apps from flagship companies feel all over the place. Attention to detail, unobtrusive interface, intelligent symbols, subdued color palettes, rich illustrations, all that is out the window now. Why should we need good design when we can replace it with cheaper "AI" templates?

Re: Figma AI

#59

Post by toddmorey »

They have not yet started doing any training on user content and I applaud them for that. (They've only used public community files so far.)

However, they are headed that way to support advanced AI features. Quoting Fimga:

   Two important highlights: First, all admins have control of whether their team’s content data is used for training. Second, participation in AI content training is not required to use Figma or Figma’s AI features. Learn more about our approach to training.
PLEASE, PLEASE make that opt-in versus opt-out. Do the right thing here, Figma!

Re: Figma AI

#60

Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

__loam wrote: post #45
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Figma is explicit about this: > Two important highlights: First, all admins have control of whether their team’s content data is used for training. Second, participation in AI content training is not required to use Figma or Figma’s AI features. Learn more about our approach to training. Blanket bans on third party AI tools don't make any sense to me. As the parent commenter said, they already have all your data, so…

Is that control opt-out by default?

Another commenter mentioned that the default is no training for Enterprise and Organization accounts, but for Starter and Professional accounts the default allows training and you need to explicitly opt out.
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