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Re: Podman Desktop 1.11: Light mode, Kubernetes features, macOS improvements

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Post by alyandon » Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 10:25 PM UTC

mdaniel wrote: post #19

alyandon wrote: post #7

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The Rancher Desktop VM with k8s enabled has about 10% continuous cpu usage at idle on my 2019 MBP. I really wish there was something I could do to reduce that.

That is almost certainly the etcd binaries on the vm chatting to itself. I would expect k3s should have lower CPU usage as they (by default) jettison etcd for an embedded db Having said that, aside from the general WTF of something burning CPU, does in impact you in some way? Battery drain, sluggish apps, memory hog (I'd bet on that one), other?

The deck of the MBP is definitely warmer with RD idling in the background. Does it practically impact anything I'm working on? No. Does it tickle the OCD related neurons in my brain? Yes and I hate that.

I just turn it on and off as needed instead of leaving it running all the time.

Re: Podman Desktop 1.11: Light mode, Kubernetes features, macOS improvements

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Post by lmz » Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 11:26 PM UTC

phone8675309 wrote: post #46

lmz wrote: post #40

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There's an obvious answer if they want an open source container experience that works great (at least the container part, not the desktop part): run it on Linux. To slam a Mac only product that by most accounts runs well, and quite a bit better than its competitors, just because it's not Open Source is disgusting.

I wish I had as few problems in my life as you because I would never consider saying "I'm not using this because it's not open source" to be "slamming" or "disgusting".

And let me add that this kind of attitude towards hard to make, well written desktop software makes me think people like you and the OP deserve every single one of the online-only Electron monstrosities on your desktop.

Re: Podman Desktop 1.11: Light mode, Kubernetes features, macOS improvements

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Post by evanelias » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 3:19 PM UTC

switchbak wrote: post #43

lmz wrote: post #29

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Along with the OS it runs on? Or is it just App developers that you don't allow to make money?

With a number of open-core projects pulling the rug from under us recently: Terraform, Akka, etc. I'm with the parent - there's no way I'm building on a shaky foundation if you're just going to fuck me over. And yes, I understand this is their choice, they need to make money, etc. But the real issue here is they're presenting their stuff as suitable to build your company on, then once you're reliant on them they star…

> they're presenting their stuff as suitable to build your company on, then once you're reliant on them they start charging (big) money.

Where is Orbstack doing any of that? The product has always been closed-source and requires a paid license for commercial use.

> But don't pretend to live in the OSS world then want to also be a SaaS when you've achieved escape velocity

Ditto here, Orbstack isn't "pretending to live in the OSS world", nor is it a SaaS. Why are you making these claims?

Re: Podman Desktop 1.11: Light mode, Kubernetes features, macOS improvements

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Post by chrisldgk » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 7:55 PM UTC

wiseowise wrote: post #22

chrisldgk wrote: post #8

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If you haven’t tried it yet, I can recommend OrbStack[1] for container things on macOS. I don’t use it for anything more than spinning up dev DBs locally, but I know it supports Kubernetes in some form or another. [1] https://orbstack.dev

https://docs.orbstack.dev/faq#open-source Into the trash it goes.

This is neither 4chan nor Reddit, if you don’t have anything to add to the conversation other than cheap quips, this is not the place for you to post.

I agree I would prefer if OrbStack were open source, but there’s a place and value in high quality closed source apps within the ecosystem. They do also open-source parts of the application, which is more than a lot of closed source developers do. If nothing else, maybe someone can find a way to utilize the advancements that OrbStack provides and can make an open source alternative.