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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by animalsgiraffes »

Syonyk wrote: post #32
noodleman wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've been at it for years. I'd genuinely be surprised if this cracked the top 10 worst things Microsoft have done to Windows users. I think there would need to be a concerted effort at a grass-roots level, say from r/buildapc, to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows.

> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows. Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.

Proton has been huge for Linux gaming, especially since the Steam Deck launched. Apple’s Game Port Toolkit is also quite promising on Mac side. Unix based OSs are seeing something of a vg renaissance.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by ziddoap »

okasaki wrote: post #48

I recently reinstalled Windows Home. It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page. I made a new account - installer @outlook.com with no@thankyou.com as the backup email (which you have to give). Microsoft didn't like that, so it made me go through 10 minutes of captchas (captcas in t…

>It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page.

This simply isn't true, I did a computer with Windows 11 Home 3 days ago with local accounts.

OOBE\bypassnro still works as expected.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by janice1999 »

Syonyk wrote: post #32
noodleman wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've been at it for years. I'd genuinely be surprised if this cracked the top 10 worst things Microsoft have done to Windows users. I think there would need to be a concerted effort at a grass-roots level, say from r/buildapc, to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows.

> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows. Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.

I recently purchased a Steam Deck and I've been blown away by how games just work. I used to use Wine a lot for applications in the early 2010s and it was always hit and miss (and Codeweaver for Office support). Proton is amazing.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by bee_rider »

Syonyk wrote: post #24

I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while. But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?" For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an…

Probably incorrect conspiracy theory: with the success of Azure and also due to basic common sense, anyone inside MS that gives even the smallest shit about OS quality is a huge Linux fan. But, they have this awful legacy OS dragging them down, they can’t get rid of it because of various contracts and general shareholder expectations. They added as much Linux to it as they could really get away with, and their only good program (VSCode) has been ported and works perfectly fine on Linux, so things are mostly looking OK.

The only thing left to do is to tank Windows and get rid of that legacy support burden once and for all.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by jabroni_salad »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #11
ziddoap wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On my gaming rig that I've had for quite a few years now, it has never been re-enabled and I've never been nagged about it.

Win11 or Win10?

I updated to w11 about a month ago and my onedrive preferences (logged out and not in use) has been respected so far.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cjk2 »

Syonyk wrote: post #43
cjk2 wrote: post #16

Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?

"It looks like you're considering investigating Microsoft! I've loaded 500 free crystals into Candy Forgecraft Extreme and launched it for you! Just play one level..." I have no idea why the EU isn't going after Microsoft with a heavy club for all the crap they're pulling lately.

> I have no idea why the EU isn't going after Microsoft with a heavy club for all the crap they're pulling lately.

Did someone get a O365 license reduction or a nice dinner out. MS rep used to take me out to dinner in the 90s to get us to use NT+Visual Basic. Free dinner with asshats - worth it. We used Solaris in the end and Sun only gave us hats.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Dalewyn »

Syonyk wrote: post #24

I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while. But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?" For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an…

>But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is.

An operating system for the common man (and hopefully a subscription revenue inlet).

We need to acknowledge that cloud backups are a good thing for most people, we're talking people who otherwise never take backups no matter what and then cry when they inevitably lose their data.

The only problems here are OneDrive is absolute roasted garbage with how it actually executes the concept and Microsoft account integration is far too fucking obnoxious.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by MissTake »

amanzi wrote: post #50

I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo. I still don't like being f…

> I actually think this is a good decision

Whatever happened to just, I dunno, asking what to do?

> But I've voted with my wallet and have moved to Linux and macOS for day-to-day desktop computing

As did I about 7 years ago. Still have to use Windows servers at work, but I’m even supplanting many of those with Linux servers as and when I can

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by tripflag »

ranger_danger wrote: post #23
scrlk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hit Shift + F10 at the Windows 11 setup screen to open a command prompt, then enter `oobe\bypassnro`. After this, skip connecting to a network and this will allow you to create a local account. It's extremely obnoxious that they've made it this difficult.

didn't work for me on 24H2 /shrug

it worked for me on win11pro 24h2 just a few days ago; maybe you had a lan cable connected?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by IshKebab »

rochak wrote: post #13

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Windows 10 is very solid. I'm going to assume it will get updates for about as long as Windows XP did... I'll re-evaluate when they actually EoL it. Who knows, maybe that will be the year of the Linux desktop! (Spoilers: no.)
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