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Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

#51
> secure and efficient

Judging by the fact you generated it with an LLM, the quality of the code, and skimming the videos, I’m highly suspicious of the claim and don’t think you’re basing that assertion on anything defensible.

Adding “make the code secure and efficient” to your prompt doesn’t make it so.

I fear for the future quality of software products. Quality was already going down the drain and LLMs have the ability to accelerate the decline.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

#52
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the code is godawful. Just look at this mess for internationalization: https://github.com/i365dev/LetterDrop/blob/main/app%2Fsrc%2F... . The code is unmaintainable by a human - there is a ton of unnecessary duplication, a gigantic html string instead of something like tsx, etc etc. I don't know how the OP can trust this output - I certainly don't.

Wow, CSS in a style tag in a string in try block in an anonymous function all declared right there in index.ts—no units, to say nothing of tests! Would be a huge nuisance to maintain.

Huge nuisance to manually maintain, but the suggestion is that you maintain it with an LLM.

Is the code bad? Sure.

Could I build this in 10 hours without an LLM having no experience with cloudflare workers and typescript? Probably not.

Could I build this in 10 hours with an LLM? Probably.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

#55
The GPT-4o generated project here doesn't even take care of sending the emails - you need to implement a different worker to handle the actual email sending. Of course, this is very easy to create (as per OP), just generate the code:

> After that, you need to create a Cloudflare Worker as a notification service. The code is very simple, you can use the ChatGPT to generate the code.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

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post #55

The GPT-4o generated project here doesn't even take care of sending the emails - you need to implement a different worker to handle the actual email sending. Of course, this is very easy to create (as per OP), just generate the code: > After that, you need to create a Cloudflare Worker as a notification service. The code is very simple, you can use the ChatGPT to generate the code.

Jesus. Github is just going to get filled up with autogenerated crap, isn't it?

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

#57
post #56
post #55

The GPT-4o generated project here doesn't even take care of sending the emails - you need to implement a different worker to handle the actual email sending. Of course, this is very easy to create (as per OP), just generate the code: > After that, you need to create a Cloudflare Worker as a notification service. The code is very simple, you can use the ChatGPT to generate the code.

Jesus. Github is just going to get filled up with autogenerated crap, isn't it?

I mean, the crap that was already there wasn't great to begin with.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

#60
post #15

MIT license? If it‘s all ML-generated, then there is no human author and therefore no copyright. It‘s in the public domain, isn‘t it?

I would argue the person prompting the LLM and piecing it all together is still a human author. The LLM is just a tool. The average person cannot sit down and create a project with an LLM, so the human is still a key factor. To say there is no human would be similar to saying those who use Copilot are not authoring their code, when clearly there is a curator/director managing what the AI models produce. Auditing and testing and packaging the code, too, is an important part of the process.
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