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As it’s Linux could we run android in a vm and simulate a safe device? That’s my hope for the future of mobile devices, safe VMs that we can run on top of the spyware (government enforced stuff too) infested phones.
Unfortunately, most of those misguided "device integrity" checkers detect VMs and the best of them (luckily still not used very often) are essentially unbeatable (unless there's a critical bug) due to hardware-backed attestation.
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> at which point you should complain or switch if only switching banks for such things was easy and realistically doable... hate that banking apps are such a hassle to live with, but i do kinda get why they're very protective.
> i do kinda get why they're very protective. I am not sure if a typical Android with a bunch of (preinstalled!) crappy apps is more secure than a GNU/Linux phone relying solely on FLOSS repos. Changing banks can be easier or harder, depending on your country. People do it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40678203
> changing banks can be easier or harder
well the process of changing banks is not the problem, i did leave UBS and Credit Suisse a couple of years ago. but now i'm with a bank i specifically chose because they're actually not financing wars or other unethical things, instead of just saying so for greenwashing purposes. this aspect is more important to me than them open-sourcing their infrastructure.
See also @kdrag0n 's work; putting Virtualized linux (and windows) on Android phones. Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device: 1. local first (you do go to the bathroom/gas station with your phone) 2. portable 3. reduce ewaste, money spent The lack of convenience in the form of larger screen might be mitigated using smart glasses, projector(unihertz tank 3 has built in), or just c…
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> i do kinda get why they're very protective. I am not sure if a typical Android with a bunch of (preinstalled!) crappy apps is more secure than a GNU/Linux phone relying solely on FLOSS repos. Changing banks can be easier or harder, depending on your country. People do it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40678203
isn't it just about banks not wanting to open-source their apps or connection details for supposed security or other reasons? > changing banks can be easier or harder well the process of changing banks is not the problem, i did leave UBS and Credit Suisse a couple of years ago. but now i'm with a bank i specifically chose because they're actually not financing wars or other unethical things, instead of just saying so…
Not exactly: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40715542
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40714796
Indeed, finding a bank reasonable from every side is much harder.
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I have found Play Integrity Fix [1] with playcurl [2] is reliable enough for passing Play Integrity in Wallet and other apps. My current issue is that Google Messages has its own integrity checks that are stricter than Play Integrity, and will silently stop handling RCS messages if it fails those checks. I currently have RCS disabled because it is too unreliable. [1] https://github.com/chiteroman/PlayIntegrityFix [2]…
Huh, I don't have issues with RCS on my rooted OP7Pro. Is my version just sufficiently out of date not to have those extra checks?
"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!
But I’m still hopeful that phone, email, web, voip, videochat, photo and video editing, location, maps, document sync, etc, will one day work seamlessly on FOSS devices.
I do think that the apps will have to be recreated as FOSS, existing apps will always be antagonistic because they get a lot of revenue from being able to control how/when/where the software is run.
How does it compare to Termux / UserLAnd? See https://termux.dev and https://userland.tech For my purposes Lindroid seems less powerful as it requires root and AOSP patches.
Termux needs to patch most of it's packages and is limited in what it can run since everything links to bionic libc.
> full hw accelerated Linux on your Android as an app At this point, you can just run full GNU/Linux on a phone. Sent from my Librem 5.
There is a unique use case for running linux as an app vs as the base OS. Seems to me it's a lot like the difference between booting linux and using WSL to run linux inside windows.
See also @kdrag0n 's work; putting Virtualized linux (and windows) on Android phones. Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device: 1. local first (you do go to the bathroom/gas station with your phone) 2. portable 3. reduce ewaste, money spent The lack of convenience in the form of larger screen might be mitigated using smart glasses, projector(unihertz tank 3 has built in), or just c…