Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by mimikatz » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 1:56 PM UTC

visarga wrote: post #50

ankurdhama wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS recall captures screenshot, analyze them, extract data from them and create a database index of these things so you can search them. Apple AI essentially provides API hooks that apps can use to expose actions and data to the model. Currently it seems Apple own apps does that but any app owner can decide to support this or not. Two completely different approach.

> Two completely different approach. Just semantics. In the end Apple has access to everything, like MS.

It isn't there are large real world implications and difference in what each does and what risk it exposes to the end user.

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by sebazzz » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 2:59 PM UTC

ulfw wrote: post #5

What are MSFT Product Managers doing these days? This was one of the worst launches in recent years. Has Microsoft fallen victim to AI panic like Google has? Do people dare to speak up and say no to Satya and Sundar?

I believe this is separate from that. Generally it is believed that the admin the "airtight hatchway". They stil could have encrypted the recall database with DPAPI though.

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by mjg59 » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 3:04 PM UTC

hiAndrewQuinn wrote: post #46

mjg59 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Under what circumstances would someone have access to the database but not the key?

Well, presumably under the circumstances where you'd prefer that.

How?

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by mannewalis » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 4:49 PM UTC

Lol this isn't about helping users, this is about creating training data for MS to use to train their models.

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by digging » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 6:23 PM UTC

This is confusing and vague to me, which I believe is exactly the intent. It focuses on security, reiterates that security is their top priority (and we know that this is untrue). What were the security problems? They don't even allude to the existence or detection of any specific security problems.

It sounds to me like they're figuring out a new marketing approach, or they're softening the blow by "listening to users" and then rolling out more slowly, when outrage has died down and people will just accept it.

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by pcloadletter_ » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 6:23 PM UTC

But hey, at least Microsoft got to increase their stock price from the initial, hasty announcement, right?

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by nextworddev » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 6:23 PM UTC

This is what happens when a 3 trillion dollar company moves fast and breaks things

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by idkdotcom » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 6:24 PM UTC

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Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by pcloadletter_ » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 6:25 PM UTC

digging wrote: post #55

This is confusing and vague to me, which I believe is exactly the intent. It focuses on security, reiterates that security is their top priority (and we know that this is untrue). What were the security problems? They don't even allude to the existence or detection of any specific security problems. It sounds to me like they're figuring out a new marketing approach, or they're softening the blow by "listening to user…

Or maybe they have to figure out how to actually make it work

Re: Microsoft to delay release of Recall AI feature on security concerns

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Post by skilled » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 6:26 PM UTC

And why the corporate speak? They messed up and that’s the end of it.

Where is the acknowledgement of getting owned two days after announcement? Where is the acknowledgment of having an understanding of the issues this poses and how they are going to address them?

Make no mistake that this feature was in development for a long time, with resources allocated to it. And throughout all that process, Microsoft thought this is a great and safe feature for the users.

And yet here we are.