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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#52

I started using Keychain pretty much primarily this year (other than 1Password at work) and it works pretty seamlessly for me (granted Apple devices only). Even the Chrome extension works quickly as if it were a native part of Chrome. Glad they're splitting it out of System Settings into a dedicated app. I've also started migrating family members to it. It'll be way easier for the less technical people since it's alr…

Does the Chrome extension still require you to enter a six digit code every day to even use it? When I tried it this was incredibly annoying and I switched back to 1password shortly after.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#53
You think people will migrate from LastPass to 1password or do you think this just limits new inbound.

Also if those two apps didn't have a product feature map way ahead of apple then they were doomed from the get go. They must have known something like this was a significant business threat if not existential risk...

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#55

Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

Hardly. While not everyone is entirely within the Apple eco-system a huge number of people are that go beyond the necessary critical mass. Apple already built this into the OS they just kept it under the clunky Settings UI - so seems like a logical and low-effort move.

If the Family Sharing aspects are well done I'd happily say goodbye to my 1Password subscription.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#56
So… this new app does most of what the depreciated “Keychain” app did, except now it’s got a iOS-looking UI. Huzzah, I guess, the “passwords” section in the iOS-restyled system prefs sure wasn’t substituting for Keychain for me. Passwords doesn’t appear to handle secure notes, though, and I still have a few of those, too.

I still really hate the iOS-restyled system prefs. Tiny unresizable text, a long vertical scroll. I can’t find a damn thing in it and just use the search bar every time and feel faintly annoyed about it.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#57

I don’t quite understand how this will be different from what built in iPhone password manager. Something I’d really like: let my iPhone act as a Bluetooth (obviously encryption will be necessary!) or USB keyboard, and have it hold my passwords/type them. That way I could keep my passwords all in one place, and manage them locally. Currently I use keepass when not on iOS, which is fine, but I don’t really want to hav…

It's a proper app that can be reached in one click rather than hidden in system UIs. Basically Keychain Access but for 2024 rather than 2001

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#58

I don’t quite understand how this will be different from what built in iPhone password manager. Something I’d really like: let my iPhone act as a Bluetooth (obviously encryption will be necessary!) or USB keyboard, and have it hold my passwords/type them. That way I could keep my passwords all in one place, and manage them locally. Currently I use keepass when not on iOS, which is fine, but I don’t really want to hav…

The offline device with a plugin usb keyboard that "types" in your username and password is exactly what i've wanted forever. There are some devices people have made and posted online. I made a POC with an old android phone once but never got past that stage. I investigated the bluetooth encryption and it didn't really seem up to the task. You could create a dongle that lived on wifi though that would do the same.

could you post a link or 2 of the DIY devices? very interesting since this kind of device obviously needs a lot of integration into the PWM software ecosystem.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#59
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wouldn't want to give free publicity to a serious competitor like btiwarden, 1password, or keepass.

1Password is still around? I used to love it, then they changed the app, pricing schema, UX, and generally made things worse overall.

Wow. Each to their own I suppose. We have a corporate account and I think 1Password is pretty fantastic. Additionally, all of our employees are given family accounts, that include 5 individuals, for free. I highly recommend 1Password to everyone I know.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#60

I don’t quite understand how this will be different from what built in iPhone password manager. Something I’d really like: let my iPhone act as a Bluetooth (obviously encryption will be necessary!) or USB keyboard, and have it hold my passwords/type them. That way I could keep my passwords all in one place, and manage them locally. Currently I use keepass when not on iOS, which is fine, but I don’t really want to hav…

The offline device with a plugin usb keyboard that "types" in your username and password is exactly what i've wanted forever. There are some devices people have made and posted online. I made a POC with an old android phone once but never got past that stage. I investigated the bluetooth encryption and it didn't really seem up to the task. You could create a dongle that lived on wifi though that would do the same.

I'm getting ready to release ours as open source (hardware and software) soon:

https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/

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