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Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Will have to wait and see if the extra security measures actually improve anything or not. However regarding it being opt out… what would prevent a virus from just enabling it on a bunch of machines silently. Sure it would be caught but the damage done and most won’t be bothered to go in and disable it after. Or Microsoft just decides they need to really market the hell out of AI and it gets turned on my default anyw…

What would prevent a virus from directly stealing the data it wants without going through this feature?

Just like in biology a virus can be simpler if it can co-opt existing machinery.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

#53

Doesn't Microsoft have a long history (and present) where they just enable privacy invasive "features" after a windows update even though the user has disabled or removed the "feature"?

Yes.

Windows is soo low quality. It feels cheap. It feels like you are at a car dealership.

Fedora, feels like you are at some futuristic office that has buttons that do multiple steps. I was literally angry last year that it took me so long to learn about up-to-date linux. Canonical's marketing of debian-family linux gave Desktop Linux a bad name.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Will have to wait and see if the extra security measures actually improve anything or not. However regarding it being opt out… what would prevent a virus from just enabling it on a bunch of machines silently. Sure it would be caught but the damage done and most won’t be bothered to go in and disable it after. Or Microsoft just decides they need to really market the hell out of AI and it gets turned on my default anyw…

It will be re-enabled accidentally by an update anyways.

Please stop with these kinds of made up fantasy scenarios.

There's no such thing as "accidental enablement" for stuff like this, as if it's a switch every employee at Microsoft has access to, and one of them one day can end up flipping by accident with their elbow and it ends up in production without anyone else noticing.

Either they decide to intentionally enable it or not. There are no accidents , when stuff like this needs to go through a committee of people for approval before it makes it into production.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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post #11
post #6

Will have to wait and see if the extra security measures actually improve anything or not. However regarding it being opt out… what would prevent a virus from just enabling it on a bunch of machines silently. Sure it would be caught but the damage done and most won’t be bothered to go in and disable it after. Or Microsoft just decides they need to really market the hell out of AI and it gets turned on my default anyw…

It will be re-enabled accidentally by an update anyways.

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Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Doesn't Microsoft have a long history (and present) where they just enable privacy invasive "features" after a windows update even though the user has disabled or removed the "feature"?

Yeah. You tell everyone you learned your lesson and then just go back and do it anyway a year later.

It must be the year for all this. Bethesda are basically trying again to make paid mods stick with their Fallout 4 update.

Softwar never changes.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

#57
Oh man this is totally going to affect:

>My workplace

It wont affect me personally, because I dont use crappy operating systems on my personal time. Microsoft products are just an efficiency loss, I still bill the same.

I literally get everything done faster on Fedora, no linux prayer needed anymore. Its just better.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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It's interesting to compare this to the Chrome/Safari/Edge browsing history, which is stored in an unencrypted SQLite database, and tracks what you do for the last 90 days. It's just a bit less visual, Incognito/Private modes work, and some users clear it more often.

But a whole lot of the surveillance attacks people imagine about Recall apply just the same to the browser. I think it's the "little brother" casual attacks that are so well enabled by Recall - it makes it faster, easier, and way more visual.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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I only have a windows partition for games. I would occasionally use it for other stuff because it's sometimes inconvenient to switch back and forth. After recall, I'm only using it for gaming and nothing else.

I'm surprised by how good proton is at running windows games on steamdeck. Because of this and nonsense like recall and the adverts in windows I'm considering just getting rid of windows all together, I'll just run mint Linux probably.
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