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Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by reza_1999 »

montebicyclelo wrote: post #38

Related side note: I've always had a suspicion that one of the ideas I was working on using Google Colab was viewed by an employee and leaked, because someone wrote a blog post with the exact same idea (very niche) before I got round to releasing mine (I ended up not bothering due to being gazumped), and a Google Colab employee tweeted that blog post. (Puts on tin foil hat.. I stopped using Colab after that.)

They bluntly say their notebook product is not private https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/1d7g3tu/notebooklm_... even for non-AI generated stuff like your notes and uploads.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by throwaway2016a »

randomdata wrote: post #39
throwaway2016a wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no expectation of a video stored on a Google system being private to Google employees "No expectation" of it not being available to "some" employees maybe, but there is certainly ways to restrict access to only a need-to-know employees. Ideally no employees at all unless some sort of automated monitoring system flags it or there is an outside report. Just like some social networks, I would "expect" only se…

The private information is shared with Youtube/Google, so the assumption is that anyone who is an agent of Google is in on the secret. If it must only be in the hands of one or a small group of people at Google, you'd best go to those individuals directly, not through the overarching entity of Google as a proxy.

> so the assumption is that anyone who is an agent of Google is in on the secret

I think there is a difference here between "expectation" and "assumption".

Without the ability to do a third-party audit I agree the only reasonable assumption to make is that everyone is in on the secret and when dealing with sensitive information it should always be the assumption you go with.

However, as an expectation, I expect SaaS and social network providers (and by extension most of the HN crowd) to be better.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by whimsicalism »

montebicyclelo wrote: post #38

Related side note: I've always had a suspicion that one of the ideas I was working on using Google Colab was viewed by an employee and leaked, because someone wrote a blog post with the exact same idea (very niche) before I got round to releasing mine (I ended up not bothering due to being gazumped), and a Google Colab employee tweeted that blog post. (Puts on tin foil hat.. I stopped using Colab after that.)

i find that unlikely

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by whimsicalism »

mitchdoogle wrote: post #23
pixl97 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Private" doesn't mean what you think it means. Pretty much all these sites can view every bit of content you submit to them for moderation purposes. Many of them state your data can teach learning models. If you really want it private, you don't want it on the cloud/social media sites.

People know what "private" means. If a company calls something private, but it isn't, then they're the ones who need to reconsider what it means, and call their service something else.

no company is going to let you upload/host child porn, so yeah you should assume everything is moderatable

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by mike_d »

beeboobaa3 wrote: post #9
kris_lujanovic wrote: post #6

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its from one of the content moderators. they are all hired and managed through recruiting agency. there was over 10k of us while I was there. and most people are just kids with one week of on boarding doing short term contract. whoever did it is blackballed by biggest recruiting agency in the world. way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points

so youtube content moderators can just view anyone's private videos willy nilly?

They can view videos they are assigned to review, but they can't just pull up a random private video.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by raldi »

happytoexplain wrote: post #4

HN title needs a grammar cleanup (at time of writing, it's 'Nintendo leak employee accessing private YouTube videos')

They added a colon, but it should really be something like, "Nintendo leak was due to YouTube employee accessing private video"

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by Der_Einzige »

montebicyclelo wrote: post #38

Related side note: I've always had a suspicion that one of the ideas I was working on using Google Colab was viewed by an employee and leaked, because someone wrote a blog post with the exact same idea (very niche) before I got round to releasing mine (I ended up not bothering due to being gazumped), and a Google Colab employee tweeted that blog post. (Puts on tin foil hat.. I stopped using Colab after that.)

There’s zero privacy with any ML/AI tools.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by randomdata »

throwaway2016a wrote: post #53
randomdata wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The private information is shared with Youtube/Google, so the assumption is that anyone who is an agent of Google is in on the secret. If it must only be in the hands of one or a small group of people at Google, you'd best go to those individuals directly, not through the overarching entity of Google as a proxy.

> so the assumption is that anyone who is an agent of Google is in on the secret I think there is a difference here between "expectation" and "assumption". Without the ability to do a third-party audit I agree the only reasonable assumption to make is that everyone is in on the secret and when dealing with sensitive information it should always be the assumption you go with. However, as an expectation, I expect SaaS…

There may be a difference, but it seems you have them flipped. It is a reasonable assumption to think that they have controls to limit who is able to see information[1], but one must go in with the expectation that every acting agent has access.

[1] Of course, since you don't know who the individuals are, you still have to place your trust in every single agent that works for the entity you chose to entrust. As such, nothing is gained by restricting access. It remains that if it is important that it be private with only one or a few, you must go to those individuals you trust directly. Granting them private information by proxy will always be subject to man-in-the-middle-ing.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by mike_d »

kmfrk wrote: post #5

Original source and article: https://www.404media.co/google-contractor-used-admin-access-... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40577812 YouTube employees or contractors might also have leaked unannounced PlayStation news: https://insider-gaming.com/how-youtube-leaks-work/

They seem to be making a big deal out of nothing. These are all cases where someone did something, it was reported/discovered, and it was investigated and handled by security/global investigations.
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