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The AI Revolution Is Already Losing Steam

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Re: The AI Revolution Is Already Losing Steam

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"The company’s recent demo of its voice-powered features led to a 22% one-day jump in mobile subscriptions, according to analytics firm Appfigures." That's an interesting figure, especially given that most of the exciting features in that demo (video analysis, the new voice input/output, improved image generation) are actually available to paying users yet.

I was one of the people who signed up for plus that day. It took me a while to realizing that the voice feature was not the same one being demoed. I think it was a bad move to roll it out like that.

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https://archive.is/R5zkq It is relevant to point out that NYT is engaged in a legal battle with OpenAI. This article refers to "AIs like ChatGPT" which clearly shows who it is targeted at. For people thay don't read arxiv every day, the actual advancements are difficult to sift out of all the hype. The dilution of the meaning of AI will contribute to the bubble's contraction when the general public realises that "AI"…

> It is relevant to point out that NYT is engaged in a legal battle with OpenAI. The article is from WSJ

... and the WSJ signed a deal with OpenAI just a few weeks ago: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/22/o...

Re: The AI Revolution Is Already Losing Steam

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To me it seems that AI is not even priced into the market cap of the big tech companies yet. Since GPT-3 came out in mid 2020: Alphabet's market cap doubled. But their earnings more than doubled. Same for Microsoft. In other words: Their p/e ratio did not increase. The future potential of AI is not yet priced in. The cost of all human labor is something like $70 trillion per year. Automating 1% of that per year would…

If a company figured out production ready automation, boots on the ground actually being replaced with prompts on the ground, they would probably trade at a P/E well over 100.

Re: The AI Revolution Is Already Losing Steam

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AI is still massively underhyped.

Disregard the occasional atmosphere journalism piece.

Even with only current tech (GPT-4o and less) we still haven't exploited 0.01% of the possibilities to create value. People are still learning how to use it and how to identify and execute on opportunities.

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This article deals with the ginormous models being trained and run in places like meta or openai - but the real AI revolution is a mix of things and we've only barely scraped the surface of what we could do with this technology.

I say this not because the next ChatGPT will be incredible (which it might be) but because it's actually the open source community which amazes me with what has already been built, and runs locally on consumer hardware.

Criticism on the massive cloud models which are expensive to run - is not wrong, for now. But it also used to take an entire room with thousands and thousands of costly vacuum tubes to be able to calculate 2+2.

My point is hardware will get better, more efficient and more suitable for AI superficially, just as software will improve and optimize.

I bet we'll be able to run bigger and bigger models for lower costs in the long term - but even if running SOA models will remain a premium, the local models still provide incredible value and that's where a lot of the revolution will (and already does) come from.

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I find these polarizing opinions confusing. There are a very large number of applications of generative AI. People believe a lot of them will produce a lot of value. So yeah, a lot of grifters abound. That part is not dissimilar to the cryptocurrency wave. But then to make statements that all of the current AI wave is a grift seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I for one am paying for generative AI i…

Anything that threatens people's livelihood is going to be met with great hostility and disbelief.

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Chamath was talking about this near the end of the All In Podcast released yesterday. He was talking about development and energy cost vs. revenue and even more importantly profit.

My gut feeling is that small large language models and ever decreasing model size and computational resource use on edge devices will lead to great outcomes in a few years, but that is only my hunch.

Right now, I get the most use out of pipelined systems like Perplexity that use an LLM to understand what you want and produce search terms, do the search and set up a temporary RAG type system with search results, identify the most useful retrieved text, and then feed this into another LLM that formats and presents a report that contains links back to source material. I find this very useful, and incidentally makes the Internet “fun” again.

Also right now, my favorite play activity is writing a lot of code (Python, Racket, Common Lisp) to do small tasks using APIs fronting LLMs (mostly running locally with Ollama).

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I can see the use of image-gen integrated into photoshop and krita. Codepilot and other code specific llms have not been useful at all.

That said I do find stuff like ChatGPT and Gemini useful enough to always be running a client I can send prompts to. It works great as a guide for things you know nothing about and can guide you on what resources to actually look for when you do actually care about having correct information.

I can see it being useful for things like self study and writing. For writing not in the same sense as copilot, I think it will be equally useless for anyone that is doing anything serious but it can help in exploration.

To me we have already reached the peak of what this type of 'AI' can do. Don't expect things to get much better. My mind is not going wild with the possibilities. Useful yes, revolutionary? no.

Re: The AI Revolution Is Already Losing Steam

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It’s the best demo-able software today that lets the customers’ minds go wild with the possibilities. But then the nuances of human abilities in commercial settings, like call center, become realities and obstacles that the software can’t surmount. Costs rise, productivity not so much, and then legal gets involved and it’s even more costly.

Compounding matters is the fact that it has become really easy to roll out half baked shit at ridiculous scales.

The marketing mega machine then uses the Scale to pretend its not half baked shit - "hey man just look at how many people are using it".

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