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After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by FireBeyond »

slibhb wrote: post #31
finack wrote: post #5

The solution is painfully obvious for anyone who isn't actually involved in milking every last red cent out of media: make movies people actually want to see, and not just shameless cash grabs recycling everything from 1980 onward. Of course, now every suit expects every movie to gross a billion dollars, so that's not going to happen. It's a fun dream, though.

Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.

Fury Road made sense. The fact that Furiosa is set in between the original Mad Max and the time of Fury Road kinda says "cash grab" to me. No real logical reason to insert this fifth film between films 1 and 4 other than "we don't know how to continue the storyline with something new, so let's just bridge the gaps".

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by DHPersonal »

bananamerica wrote: post #38
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Are you really watching DVDs on modern large screens though? Maybe you meant Blu-ray. DVDs look terrible on modern screens.

I watch DVDs on my 40-inch screen when the Blu-rays aren't available for rental from Redbox, but I haven't rented from Redbox in a while because of their terrible selection.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by geerlingguy »

darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Or stream it once for $4.99 or less if you're patient and are willing to wait a couple months after Blu-ray/streaming release.

It seems like after Endgame, there have only been a few 'event' movies like Oppenheimer, Top Gun Maverick, and Dune 2 that would be worth experiencing in a movie theater.

And even then, those movies are pushing 95-100 dB during some scenes, making me not really want to do the 'IMAX' experience again, it's just too loud and too big. A 40-60" OLED from 5-10' away and near my fridge and bathroom—with a pause button so I can get up halfway through a nearly 3 hour movie—is too tempting.

It'd be nice if there were 1.5 hour movies that cost $10 a ticket in a nice, normal theater.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by cmckn »

darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Obviously things differ by location, but I'm in a large, pretty expensive city (Seattle). I usually go to the Cinemark in Bellevue because they have IMAX. This is a nice theater in a nice area. A ticket to see Furiosa tonight, in IMAX, is $19.50. A ticket for a standard screen is $13.50. My recollection is that's pretty much what movie tickets cost 10 years ago.

I think the films just aren't enticing enough to steal eyes from streaming services, TikTok, etc.

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Post by sickofparadox »

nickthegreek wrote: post #27
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Movies are coming to streaming faster than they ever have as well. Its hard to want to go see a mediocre movie at high prices when it will be available in 60-90 days. When I was a kid, the VHS wouldn't appear for 6months to a year.

People will say "oh but we have proven that going to streaming sooner does not effect ticket sales", to which I say - how can we be sure that the compounding effect of every movie going to streaming after 45 days has not brought about a fundamental shift to the theater's value proposition?

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by vundercind »

ramesh31 wrote: post #4
kingofthehill98 wrote: post #3

Marvel forever ruined Hollywood.

So did streaming releases + sub $1k 80 inch 4k TVs. The value of going to a theater at this point is almost nonexistent for most people.

You can put together a hell of a 4k projector set-up with 7.2 surround and all that, for the cost of about 100 $20 movie tickets, with a little bargain shopping. If you have the space for it.

100 tickets may seem like a lot but 1) you can probably have six or so people watch comfortably at once, so the ticket equivalent may be reached fast, 2) the experience will be overall better than a theater in basically every way except that you can’t compete with exceptionally-well-suited movies on, say, imax (the odd film like Dune—I saw and liked Furiosa on imax but it would have been entirely fine on my projector). Those will be the only remaining films that are even tempting to see in a theater.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by SeanAnderson »

This just feels like poor marketing. I am not an avid movie goer. I saw Dune 2 this year and did Barbie/Oppenheimer last year.

In both scenarios I attended due to viral, word-of-mouth marketing. I didn't see specific trailers that compelled me nor was I anxiously awaiting the releases.

In contrast, I heard nothing about Furiosa prior to its release, but have read tons of content about its post-release failure.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by darth_avocado »

cmckn wrote: post #55
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Obviously things differ by location, but I'm in a large, pretty expensive city (Seattle). I usually go to the Cinemark in Bellevue because they have IMAX. This is a nice theater in a nice area. A ticket to see Furiosa tonight, in IMAX, is $19.50. A ticket for a standard screen is $13.50. My recollection is that's pretty much what movie tickets cost 10 years ago. I think the films just aren't enticing enough to steal…

IMAX used to cost $12.99 in 2018 in Bay Area. Tickets were way cheaper 6 years ago.
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