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Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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Best perk on SW is the companion pass. Some well timed credit card sign ups and a few flights and you can have a companion fly free with you for almost 2 years. Especially nice as SW flies to Hawaii.

Alaska also has a companion pass and also flies to Hawaii

> Alaska also has a companion pass and also flies to Hawaii

Nice!

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

#52
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This is going to sound like an ad, but I exclusively fly SW domestically. As noted, they used to look like a worse value but only because of the way competition handled fees. Couple this with the standard rewards program and I think SW is a steal. Did you know that SW is also the only domestic airline to have never filed bankruptcy? I’m glad to see the rest of the world being forced to compete more honestly. I’m sad…

> but only because of the way competition handled fees Southwest treats all its customers the way the big three treat their most frequent fliers. I am loyal to Delta and also never pay baggage fees or change fees or have miles expire. The lounges are free, which means free food and drink from one airport to the other. I can get a human on the phone within 60s, have had a car help with gate-to-gate transfers when a de…

Southwest has its faults, but they're far and away the most human-friendly and least-BS domestic airline in the US. The price is the price and you get reasonable accommodations even at the base fare. If your Southwest credits/vouchers expire, you can talk to an actual person who'll extend it by six months after expiration even if you don't have status. It doesn't feel bad giving Southwest your business.

Maybe other companies shouldn't completely optimize away the humanity in their services. Maybe have some core values beyond "make number go up."

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

#53
post #27

This is going to sound like an ad, but I exclusively fly SW domestically. As noted, they used to look like a worse value but only because of the way competition handled fees. Couple this with the standard rewards program and I think SW is a steal. Did you know that SW is also the only domestic airline to have never filed bankruptcy? I’m glad to see the rest of the world being forced to compete more honestly. I’m sad…

For the domestic airline, no that's not true, theres other airlines in the USA that have not declared bankruptcy, off the top of my head Alaska Airlines never has alongside several others. this seems to be a great, yet sadly non-exhaustive list: https://www.airlines.org/dataset/u-s-bankruptcies-and-servic...

I look at Southwest as an outlier, I don't mind them, but I don't really look for them, they used to fly to inconvinent airports.

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

#54

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Google flights has had the no checked bags allowed icon for years. And still shows it, I was originally afraid the government decided every ticket price has to include a checked bag, as that what your comment sounded like. So not too sure what's changed.

From the article: it appears that Southwest has started allowing its prices to be listed on aggregators.

>I don't know how you would have come to that conclusion, after reading the article? It says pretty plainly that the new government regulations, which force airlines to show all "additional" charges alongside the ticket price, means that Southwest's bundled price will now SHOW as cheaper, rather than showing as a larger base price (but less without the added additional 'baggage check' fees, or whatever) than other airlines.

You said this. I said that's how Google Flights has been all along. So the full verbose question would be "What changed that made Southwest decide to allow their flights to appear on Google flights?"

It doesn't look to be simply 'government regulations'.

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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I just can't put up with the unassigned seating zoo, lack of premium class options, and other niceties.

I just pay for upgraded boarding ($30) which means that I have my pick of aisle/window seats before it gets crowded. Lack of premium class seating is real, Southwest is not the airline for you if you require >17 inch seat width or >31 inch legroom.

I've read, but never tested, that if you buy two seats and tell them you're overweight, they'd refund you one.

Obviously research yourself as needed, but remember seeing an article about that recently.

Still, no relief for taller passengers.

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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What was the misrepresentation? The lowest price offered by Southwest is still the same. Southwest having a different pricing strategy does not make it misrepresentation. Edit to respond to fragmede below: If a customer selects 0 or 1 checked bags, would it be better for the customer if Google flights did not show Southwest as an option at all?

The UI displaying the SW price for two checked bags next to the Delta price for zero checked bags is the issue. it's like comparing "the cheapest Mac laptop vs the cheapest windows laptop" vs "the cheapest Mac laptop vs equivalently spec'd windows laptop", and not trusting consumers or the price comparison UI to know the difference.

I certainly appreciate the effort as valiant, but the commenter responded to a generalized summary of the issue with anecdotal tunnel-vision about their pet issue, completely ignoring the context (an entire US law was passed - no small feat - to fix an issue ne is insisting doesn't actually exist) and the other types of issues that contribute to the misrepresentation of prices (checked bags aren't the only 'hidden fee').

In response to "you can see how THIS is a misrepresentation, right?" they said "actually, I've never had that problem, so..."

At some point, you have to recognize who and what you are dealing with and cut bait. But, hey, YMMV! Godspeed, if you're willing, I suppose!

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

#57
post #27

This is going to sound like an ad, but I exclusively fly SW domestically. As noted, they used to look like a worse value but only because of the way competition handled fees. Couple this with the standard rewards program and I think SW is a steal. Did you know that SW is also the only domestic airline to have never filed bankruptcy? I’m glad to see the rest of the world being forced to compete more honestly. I’m sad…

Some people hate the boarding procedure but as a mostly solo traveler I love it.

https://support.southwest.com/helpcenter/s/article/boarding-...

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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What is the signal being derived never having declared bankruptcy? Doesn't that mean, comparatively, they're extracting more money from customers than the rest of the industry and spending less on things like maintenance? Both of those sound like bad things to me.

If you buy a plane ticket for the future, in a bankruptcy, you become an unsecured creditor of the airline. That means the airline could have taken your money, spent it, and the bankruptcy court can say that they don't actually have to honor your ticket because it falls below the line of the things the airline has money to actually pay people back for. And then you have to go buy another ticket on another airline. Be…

> If you buy a plane ticket for the future, in a bankruptcy, you become an unsecured creditor of the airline

Also, miles, vouchers, credits, et cetera.

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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post #27

This is going to sound like an ad, but I exclusively fly SW domestically. As noted, they used to look like a worse value but only because of the way competition handled fees. Couple this with the standard rewards program and I think SW is a steal. Did you know that SW is also the only domestic airline to have never filed bankruptcy? I’m glad to see the rest of the world being forced to compete more honestly. I’m sad…

Other than garbage airlines like Frontier, I have never had reasons to complain about any American airlines that much. Competition is so fierce that they all are pretty bad in my opinion.

Re: Southwest Airlines now available on Google Flights

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post #27

This is going to sound like an ad, but I exclusively fly SW domestically. As noted, they used to look like a worse value but only because of the way competition handled fees. Couple this with the standard rewards program and I think SW is a steal. Did you know that SW is also the only domestic airline to have never filed bankruptcy? I’m glad to see the rest of the world being forced to compete more honestly. I’m sad…

> but only because of the way competition handled fees Southwest treats all its customers the way the big three treat their most frequent fliers. I am loyal to Delta and also never pay baggage fees or change fees or have miles expire. The lounges are free, which means free food and drink from one airport to the other. I can get a human on the phone within 60s, have had a car help with gate-to-gate transfers when a de…

Just buy her a A-group upgrade on southwest, she will be sitting near the front and will get on and off quickly
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