Missing on social media was a pretty big error for Google, right?
maybe for Googs, but I think it was a net positive for society in general
Disagree. I'd trust a large social network from Google much more than one from Facebook or Twitter.
Ex-Googler says company's AI panic is like Google+ fiasco all over again
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not even remotely true. Corporate earnings are growing strongly across almost all sectors ( https://www.usbank.com/investing/financial-perspectives/mark... .)
That link doesn't say anything like that, what are you taking about. It even mentions that sizable number of companies have negative guidance.
Directly from the linked article: "On average, first quarter 2024 earnings results were solid. Four sectors — Communication Services, Utilities, Consumer Discretionary and Information Technology — generated the strongest earnings growth for the quarter"
But that was just a link I came across quickly. You can look at almost any economic statistics you want and see that the economy (at least in the US, you mentioned the S&P 500 so I assume you are US-based) is quite strong right now.
Re: Ex-Googler says company's AI panic is like Google+ fiasco all over again
#53It's time for new startups/search engines.
Re: Ex-Googler says company's AI panic is like Google+ fiasco all over again
#54It's not so bad to get caught flat-footed by something like ChatGPT (of course, it's not like Google didn't have AI stuff in development, for example that thing they showed once and then never brought up again when you could let Google Now talk to call reps), after all it seems like everyone was genuinely caught off guard by that first release of GPT and it's capabilities as a product . The bigger issue for Google, a…
My totally uninformed outsider view is that Google lacks leadership that can set a direction and follow through with it. They're no longer capable or interested in shaking up the environment like they did with Gmail. I understand that Google is a large mature company now, but they also seem to be uninterested in steady-handed long-term maintenance of a lot of their products either.
I don't see any vision in Google's products other than "ad money printer go brrrr."
Re: Ex-Googler says company's AI panic is like Google+ fiasco all over again
#55> Google's goal, according to Jenson, is to create a Jarvis-like assistant that keeps users locked into Google's ecosystem. The company is driven by the fear that someone else might get there first... > ...Apple is pursuing a similar AI lock-in strategy with Siri, Jenson believes. I remember when Microsoft got sued for including a web browser in Windows. Oh how anti-trust has fallen.
> I remember when Microsoft got sued for including a web browser in Windows. Oh how anti-trust has fallen.
The case was more complicated than you’re suggesting, and a lot less relevant.
Which of these companies are you suggesting has the monopoly position in the phone market? Apple? Google?
Which other OS-level AI voice assistants are being prevented from competing in this case? This isn’t like a web browser download where the marginal cost is negligible download bandwidth. Voice assistants are expensive to develop and run. They’re investments made in the product being sold.
Most importantly: What outcome do you even want? That the government forbid companies from developing AI integration into their own platforms because it might make people more loyal to those platforms?
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#56As a software developer, I'm anxious about the AI gold rush being a bubble that's about to pop. I've been unemployed ever since the Great 15% Layoffs, about 14 months ago. I finally landed a job (well, once the paperwork is done) related to bringing up a new processor. But it's a DL accelerator. I really hope there's not another employment bloodbath if/when the AI bubble bursts, since my savings are pretty much deple…
Honestly if you can I would try to find something outside "AI" for now: even if you are doing real deep learning stuff the reality is that 99% of the people investing in AI at the moment can't differentiate obvious bs from real R&D at all, they are here just because of the hype and are throwing millions to anything with an AI tag on it, so when this bubble pops it will be ugly for everybody, indiscriminately. This is another dot com.
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#57It's not so bad to get caught flat-footed by something like ChatGPT (of course, it's not like Google didn't have AI stuff in development, for example that thing they showed once and then never brought up again when you could let Google Now talk to call reps), after all it seems like everyone was genuinely caught off guard by that first release of GPT and it's capabilities as a product . The bigger issue for Google, a…
> At this point, I doubt Google can turn the ship around. The company is just a gigantic behemoth of petty fiefdoms that will go the way of the Carolingian empire.
Microsoft was in a bad shape too but they did turn the ship around when Ballmer left. Not sure whether MS was better entrenched than Google is but what seems to me is that Google need a drastic leadership change. Or they could be milking whatever they have and eventually go the way of the dodo.
Re: Ex-Googler says company's AI panic is like Google+ fiasco all over again
#58Scott Jenson is the ex-Googler in the article. He posted this on LinkedIn: “ I just left Google last month. The "AI Projects" I was working on were poorly motivated and driven by this panic that as long as it had "AI" in it, it would be great. This myopia is NOT something driven by a user need. It is a stone cold panic that they are getting left behind. The vision is that there will be a Tony Stark like Jarvis assist…
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#59Re: Ex-Googler says company's AI panic is like Google+ fiasco all over again
#60[dupe]
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