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Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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Post by crackercrews » Tue, May 21, 2024, 11:50 PM UTC

winternett wrote: post #41

Following your dreams is directly linked to your ability to obtain funding. This world has major problems in grasping different perspectives of others than the ones we're born with. When I do speeches for younger audiences, I always remind them to consider perspectives other than the ones they were raised in. It's baffling how many people walk around thinking that their perspective is fair to impose on everyone. I th…

> I think a lot of our current problems, especially wealth inequality, racism, and wars

How are "dreamers" who see their own vision driving racism? We're talking about jobs and entrepreneurship here. In that context how has someone's vision been the driver of racism?

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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Post by P_I_Staker » Wed, May 22, 2024, 3:16 PM UTC

winternett wrote: post #41

Following your dreams is directly linked to your ability to obtain funding. This world has major problems in grasping different perspectives of others than the ones we're born with. When I do speeches for younger audiences, I always remind them to consider perspectives other than the ones they were raised in. It's baffling how many people walk around thinking that their perspective is fair to impose on everyone. I th…

What you're talking about is a stunning inability to empathize with different circumstances that is a trademark human trait. We have limited ability to empathize beyond: self -> people just like us -> family -> friends

As soon as you leave self it gets tricky, and only harder the more different and detached. It is shocking to see in light of modern morals. In fairness the idea of empathizing with differing peoples is a relatively new virtue; at least to place a high value on this is new.

Honestly, these types of things cause me existential dread. It's just so disheartening to see smart and caring people constantly turn into psychopaths over the slightest difference.

Every time you think they've figured it out, only to be let down later. It's one thing not to SEE it, but they never understand, even after explanation. You practically have to get them to take a college course before they "get it" (poorly, but they sorta understand now).

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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Post by em-bee » Wed, May 22, 2024, 3:22 PM UTC

winternett wrote: post #49

em-bee wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it would seem so. the problem is that our dreams and visions are not created on a blank sheet, but they are the outcome of our upbringing and our influences. which is why some people don't develop any dreams at all when they grow up. racism connects to visions by these people growing up in a racist environment and developing their life vision based on that. this again brings me back to daryl davis https://news.ycombi…

Agreed, I think the word "bias" kind of depicts the issue better in some cases... Bias, detailing an upbringing that is devoid of knowing, respecting, being conscious of, and considering cultures outside of one's own... I don't think it becomes the larger (societal-level) instance of racism until it is willfully and intentionally applied towards holding others of a specific race down, or discriminating against the ra…

yes. racism, bias, prejudice are all just variations of the same problem in different intensity

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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Post by P_I_Staker » Wed, May 22, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

cambaceres wrote: post #42

winternett wrote: post #41

Following your dreams is directly linked to your ability to obtain funding. This world has major problems in grasping different perspectives of others than the ones we're born with. When I do speeches for younger audiences, I always remind them to consider perspectives other than the ones they were raised in. It's baffling how many people walk around thinking that their perspective is fair to impose on everyone. I th…

How do you connect racism to people following their own personal vision? Wouldn't that imply that all human phenomena result from individuals pursuing their personal visions?

I think this was just part of the main script. "People don't mix together", "if we give to their there won't be enough for mine", "can't they just figure it out themselves"

The idea of letting white people flourish based on their own merits (and they have the keys to the castle, the government, economy behind it) was the centerpiece of modern discrimination.

Unequal separation to benefit whites was certain people's personal visions. Although, what's being lost here is it's more a class of people in their vision for the group.

Ironically things like love and bonding might be related... but that's a conversation for another day.

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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Post by jessriedel » Wed, May 22, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

talldatethrow wrote: post #50

jessriedel wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a big purchase like a car, I don't think home delivery vs. pick-up in town matters much at all. I'll defer to your experience, but my expectation is that cars are such a big purchase that the time cost of one trip to pick up the purchased car is negligible. The reason people want to be able to buy directly from the manufacturer is that they want to see real posted prices so that they can comparison shop from home…

Not trying to argue, but few people that negotiate are doing it based on any true market value. If you see a BMW X5 for $50k on a dealer site, and an Audi Q7 for $50k, you can buy whichever one you want for $50k. I sold Audis when the Q5 first came out, and we simply wouldn't discount them. Tons of people would mention they could get $4k off at BMW, so why wouldn't we do similar. There simply wasn't a reason to. We w…

> Not trying to argue, but few people that negotiate are doing it based on any true market value.

It’s because they don’t know the value and/or they are bad at negotiating. That’s why they want to avoid it. Likewise, when I invest my retirement money, I just want to buy a broad index fund where I know I am getting the market-clearing price. I don’t want to have to know a guy who can get me a great deal on Microsoft stock, could I come down to the lot and talk about it?

> I suppose what you're saying is that you wish BMW just listed a lower price on their SUV that year so that everyone could compare easily

Yes.

> But if we go to the manufacturer model, it'll either still be static yearly pricing like MSRP is today.. or they'll do dynamic pricing like Tesla where people that bought the month prior sometimes pay a few thousand more than people that bought today.

Prices fluctuate. Airplane tickets double in price overnight, and some of that is price discrimination. But the rules are clear: last-minute tickets are a more valuable commodity. At any time, I can check one website and see reliable prices all flights between two places. I don’t have to go to each airline website anymore, much less talk to a human.

> But you can also get a feel for what deals a dealership is offering by just browsing their special page usually.

This is a wasteful, inefficient way to run a market.