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Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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I am at a point in my career where I can be selective and only consider 100% remote roles. I am also a manager, so I understand some of the management challenges that lead people to dismiss or be skeptical of the claim that remote work can be just as effective as office work. One thing I will admit: It is harder, as a remote manager, to manage low performers or people who show signs of disengagement. You can get more…

Might be easier to manage if top performers were rewarded in a meaningful way.

If the top performer is getting a 3 percent raise this year, the "slacker" is probably higher paid on a per hour basis considering they work less.

When the top performers start buying vacation homes and sports cars as a reward for being one, I'd wager the unmotivated might start moving.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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The latest salvo in the RTO war is reposts of stupid TikTok and Xhitter videos of people bragging about goofing off the entire time while they WFH. That’s a sign of either a shit manager, over hiring, or bullshit jobs (jobs that you think you need but you don’t). It still happens in an office except instead of baking or lounging they are fucking off on the Internet or creating make work to look busy but not actually…

> It still happens in an office except instead of baking or lounging they are fucking off on the Internet or creating make work to look busy but not actually creating value.

I wish bad managers would understand.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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> You can get more out of an office worker who lacks intrinsic motivation than a similar remote worker. No, you will have them sitting at their desk. That's not work. That's the appearance of work. Unfortunately, that's enough for bad managers.

It's a spectrum. It's indeed true you probably can't get someone who's completely disengaged to be particularly productive. They'll do the bare minimum to make you go away but mostly just phone it in. These people probably should be encouraged to leave anyway, if nothing else for their own sake. Odds are they're in a late stage Office Space-type burn out and could really do with a change of scenery. That said, there…

> That said, there are personalities who genuinely benefit from hands-on management. Some just don't have a lot of initiative and will just do nothing until they're told what to do next.

Absolutely.

But you don't need physical handholding for that.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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I am at a point in my career where I can be selective and only consider 100% remote roles. I am also a manager, so I understand some of the management challenges that lead people to dismiss or be skeptical of the claim that remote work can be just as effective as office work. One thing I will admit: It is harder, as a remote manager, to manage low performers or people who show signs of disengagement. You can get more…

I've never met a manager that was good at these things. In my industry they just look for any defect and then start applying pressure, until they get someone new, or you change.

Pretty atrocious policy when disability, mental health and trauma can come into play. It essentially relies on inducing despair. I know for a fact much of big tech is like this. Atlassian has been called out for it.

Perhaps you work for a small-to-midsize company.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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The hard part about remote is collaboration outside of meetings is hard. Chat is soul-less and leads to a lot of misunderstandings with tone. Video is too formal. Phone is interrupt. For the past 6 months we've been using a walkie-talkie app that transcribes and it's pretty magical. It feels like it's solved some of the issues with unstructured collaboration. Plus the bonus is you can add anyone to a discussion and t…

Video chat also has enough of a delay it short circuits a lot of collaboration thought forming. Creative discussions go from free flowing back and forth to queued up saying of pieces with little interjection.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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Remote work should just be for call center type jobs (where the feed of work is consistent); sales people that constantly visit clients (which doesn't happen much now ); or extremely talented superstars.

For everyone else that has a bad commute and wants to be home, they should consider retiring or get one of the jobs above.

If people can't don't 5 days in office, they should move to a 4 day work week and get 80% of pay.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you a fair assessment is warranted. Dismissing the downsides of remote work leads to unrealistic expectations/conversations. That said, > You can get more out of an office worker who lacks intrinsic motivation than a similar remote worker. Is this because for an office worker it's harder to disguise the lack of motivation? Or are they pressured into going through the motions even if they don't feel like…

I think this has more to do with workers who are only interested in doing the least amount of work they can get away with. Even highly motivated workers are going to have off days that are less productive, but the average level of output will be higher. Low performing / marginal workers, in my experience, tend to do their best work when they feel like they are being observed. Providing that sort of motivation is more…

Yes - also there are lots of reasons for why people are low performing.

Office environments can take some of those reasons (e.g. certain distractions) away.

Re: Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

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Every time this comes up I'm struck by the same thought: do these cats measure _anything_ their people do? And what in the world happens when someone takes off for two weeks to go on vacation?

The solution to all this is very simple. Management needs to hold everyone, including other managers, accountable for measurable output. These are usually based on key performance indicators (KPIs) and are semi-standard in many industries these days. From there, you don't have to care how, when, or why anyone does anything, just as long as they hit the target.

This also has reaching ramifications for everything. People are no longer stressed out by working under ill-defined objectives or nebulous directives. Remote work is now palatable, since things are now results-focused rather than means-focused. Under-performing employees are now easier to discharge with cause, and identifying top performers is dead-simple. Reports are now easy to generate, sometimes without human involvement, so nobody can fib to the CEO. And all that applies to managers too, which I think we can all appreciate.

In contrast, a workplace that runs on vibes and gut-checks will have the drama cited in the article. The whole org relies on a near co-dependent level of trust, leading managers to have anxiety attacks when they can't put eyes on things. Accountability is less about facts and more about feelings. Nobody has a firm grasp on how the company will make that quarterly objective, but we're all going to "work hard" and "do what it takes" anyway. It's all well and good for a startup of 20 people, but it's miserable for an army of 200 or 2000.

Even in-office, we shouldn't be conducting performance reviews on a gut check or how happy you make your boss. It should be down to setting measurable goals, gathering supporting data through the year, and assessing the results at regular intervals.

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