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Re: Veo

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Post by nuz »

popcar2 wrote: post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

Sora is also movement limited to a certain range if you look at the clips closely. Probably something like filtering by some function of optical flow in both cases.

Re: Veo

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Post by stefan_ »

endisneigh wrote: post #26

I’ve noticed that a lot of the commentary of these models creates the sort of fervor like politics or sports. In any case - no details on compute needed. Curious if this ever can be cheap. Even Midjourney still requires a lot. I’m also surprised there hasn’t been some attempt at creating benchmarks for this. One example could be color accuracy.

Never mind no benchmarks, half of these announcements in the past were straight made up, "offline enhanced" cherry picked "examples", CGI fantasies.

Not to mention the whole AGI topic is forever doomed from SciFi fans, just remember what happened with that room-temperature superconductivity.

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Post by fakedang »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #17

The Donald Glover segment might be a new low for Google announcement videos. They spent all this time talking up the product but didn't actually show what he had created. Imagine how bad the model must be if this is the best way Google can think of selling it.

What seems worse is the Google TextFX video with Lupe Fiasco? What the heck am I supposed to get out of watching boring monologues by a couple of people? They could have just as easily shown, with less camera work, Lupe Fiasco actually using the LLM model, but they didn't - or at least not enough to grab my attention in 2 minutes.

Personally, I liked the above link, even as a Google skeptic, but the videos aren't helping their case.

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Post by bamboozled »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #32
curiousgal wrote: post #16

Oh look another half baked product release that's not available in any country. They're a joke.

Is Sora available in any country?

I thought I read they’ve deemed Sora too dangerous to release pre- election ? Or have reservations about it ? I might be wrong…

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Post by Cyph0n »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #49
nextworddev wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except gpt-4o with audio and video inputs isn’t actually out

I was using it yesterday in the mobile app. Unless they just slapped the new UI on an older model.

I think they (partially?) rolled it back. I tried out the voice input yesterday, but it’s missing from the app today.

Re: Veo

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Post by fidotron »

If you were of a mind to give Google the benefit of the doubt you would have to think they are desperately trying not to overpromise and underdeliver, partly because that has been their track record to date. It's a very curious time to choose to make this switch though given their competition, and if it was motivated by the reception Bard received then it shows they didn't learn the right lessons from that mess at all.

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Post by Workaccount2 »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #49
nextworddev wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except gpt-4o with audio and video inputs isn’t actually out

I was using it yesterday in the mobile app. Unless they just slapped the new UI on an older model.

They just released the text chat model which still uses the same old audio interface as 4. The new audio/video chat stuff is not out yet (unless you are a very lucky early beta user).

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Post by CraftingLinks »

InfiniteVortex wrote: post #44
Keyframe wrote: post #38

Kind of sucks to be google. Even they're making good progress here, and have laid the foundations of a lot if not most things.. their products are, well there aren't any noteworthy compared to rest. And considering google is sitting on top of one of the largest if not THE largest video database, along with maps, traffic, search, internet.zip, usenet, vast computing resources vertically integrated.. they have the whol…

Google search has been absolutely ruined in terms of quality. You're right, they've built the base in terms of R&D for many of the AI breakthroughs thats powering competing alternative products.... that happen to be better than Google's own products. Google went from "Don't be evil" to just another big corporate tech company. They have so much potential. Regrettable.

They are fast on their way becoming IBM 2.0.

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Post by atleastoptimal »

Keyframe wrote: post #38

Kind of sucks to be google. Even they're making good progress here, and have laid the foundations of a lot if not most things.. their products are, well there aren't any noteworthy compared to rest. And considering google is sitting on top of one of the largest if not THE largest video database, along with maps, traffic, search, internet.zip, usenet, vast computing resources vertically integrated.. they have the whol…

Because they punish experimentation as it eats into their bottom line. AI is a tool for ads in the mind of executives at Google. Ads and monetization of human productivity, not an agent of productivity on its own.

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

inasio wrote: post #34

From a 2014 Wired article [0]: "The average shot length of English language films has declined from about 12 seconds in 1930 to about 2.5 seconds today" I can see more real-world impact from this (and/or Sora) than most other AI tools [0] https://www.wired.com/2014/09/cinema-is-evolving/

This is very noticeable. Watching movies from the 1970s is positively serene for me, vs the shot time on modern films often leaves me wonder, "wait, what just happened there?"

And I'm someone who is fine playing fast action video games. Can't imagine what it's like if you're older or have sensory processing issues.

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