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Re: Firefox search update

#51

DuckDuckGo for the win!

This has nothing to do with what search engine you're using. It collects data about what you type in the search/URL bar.

I guess it's time to stop searching from the url bar (sorry, "awesomebar") and create a local html file as the startup and new tab page, with search boxes for all your fav engines. Just like the good old days.

Re: Firefox search update

#53

> We’re ramping up our efforts to enhance search experience by developing new features like Firefox Suggest, which provides recommended online content that corresponds to queries. So, they need to collect data about my search habits so they can show me relevant ads in Firefox Suggest? At this point why do I even bother using Firefox? I seriously might as well just use Chromium.

Remember when Firefox was the new hotness because it blocked ads?

Re: Firefox search update

#54

> We’re ramping up our efforts to enhance search experience by developing new features like Firefox Suggest, which provides recommended online content that corresponds to queries. So, they need to collect data about my search habits so they can show me relevant ads in Firefox Suggest? At this point why do I even bother using Firefox? I seriously might as well just use Chromium.

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Re: Firefox search update

#55
post #20

> Innovation and privacy go hand in hand here at Mozilla [...] Rest assured, the way we gather these insights will always put user privacy first [...] Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox Wouldn't actually putting "user privacy first" lead to the conclusion that gathering insights like this shouldn't be done on a opt-out basis and instead be opt-in, at the very least? Per…

Privacy first is just not collecting the data. Everything else is just a compromise and an excuse.

Do you believe there is no utility in knowledge? Do you believe absolutism is the only philosophy for privacy?

I think telemetry and the data software collects can help with usability, design, and product enhancement and that it's very likely this can be done to some extent without harming privacy.

Re: Firefox search update

#56

> We’re ramping up our efforts to enhance search experience by developing new features like Firefox Suggest, which provides recommended online content that corresponds to queries. So, they need to collect data about my search habits so they can show me relevant ads in Firefox Suggest? At this point why do I even bother using Firefox? I seriously might as well just use Chromium.

> I seriously might as well just use Chromium Before you leave please give LibreWolf a shot. It’s a modified Firefox with “spying/tracking/etc” disabled. https://librewolf.net/

I've looked into it in the past, but I have no idea who's maintaining that software or what's included in it. I understand their claims, but I can't verify that's all they're doing due to my lack of time/interest.

It's more risk than I'm willing to take for a software I use or everything critically important to me - including banking access.

Re: Firefox search update

#57

Just a shortcut for anybody trying to find it. "Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide [0] on how to adjust your settings." --- 1. Click the [hamburger menu button] and select Settings. 2. Select the Privacy & Security panel. 3. Scroll down to the Firefox Data Collection and Use section. 4. Check or uncheck the box next to Allow Firefox to send…

It's a bit deceptive to claim you have a Privacy First policy when it's opt out. True privacy is not opt out, but opt in.

Re: Firefox search update

#59
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Your queries aren't send to Mozilla, just the broad categories. Chrome is sending full queries to Google.

If you're using Google for searches, it also doesn't matter if you use Firefox or Chrome, obviously they have access to the full queries you do on their properties.

It does matter becauae you can use an anonimizer for seach on Firefox just fine, but if you use Chrome then Google can collect everything you enter in a form and see where it's sent. Not sure if they do, but they could. One element of security is comparmentalization: avoid using a client and server from the same adversary, if you can, to minimize correlations.

Re: Firefox search update

#60

Seems like this is in support of "Firefox Suggest", which seems to show sponsored links. I really don't like advertising so I really don't like going down that road. Can't they just take Google's yearly $600,000,000 payment and build the best browser "for the user" while also addressing technical debt and organizational issues so it can continue as an open source project if/when the money ever dries up?

You want them to be Google's vassal state and wait for death instead of trying to become self-sustainable? Defeatist mentality if I've ever seen one.

I want them to not replicate google. I use Firefox to fight ads, not to get ads in my searchbar.
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