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Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by mindslight »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #40
mindslight wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... and then not have any of your usual development tools, environment, system layout, or repair techniques because you're inside someone else's "works on my system" that they threw over the wall. It's obviously possible to debug what goes on inside a Docker image. It's just not something I'm particularly interested in dealing with, especially under duress.

> because you're inside someone else's "works on my system" that they threw over the wall. FWIW, this can also be called stable state you can retreat to . And build upon, e.g. adding a layer of debugging tools. I don't really like to deal with Docker, but at least I have reasonable certainty it'll work. I prefer system package manager or MSI, but if not that, it beats having to build something when it's near-guarante…

It's certainly within my gamut to jump into an embedded system to debug it, bringing/building tools as I go. I'm just not looking to opt into doing that on something that doesn't need to be that complex in the first place. Same reason I run one decently powerful amd64 server that does many things rather than a stack of Raspberry Pis, one per software package.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by shrx »

stavros wrote: post #19

I got a Zigbee power breaker and hooked it up so all my flat's power goes through it, and then made an e-ink display to show my power consumption: https://www.stavros.io/posts/making-the-timeframe/

I'm curious, which power breaker do you have?

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by applied_heat »

recursinging wrote: post #39

One step further. I just installed the Emporia Vue 2 in my distribution box. 16 CTs plus the three mains phases. It's ESP32 based and there is a great ESPHome project that you can flash it with for local only reporting. Add some HA and VictoriaMetrics, and now I can see how the whole house behaves with Grafana. Next up, Zero-Export using this data to steer my little OpenDTU solar plant. We live in such cool times!

Victoria metrics and grafana is great. I only wish I could enter descriptions for the metrics to populate the description in the grafana metrics explorer which is traditionally done by Prometheus metric metadata “help” field.

Victoria metrics/ grafana is supplanting our industrial historian, which is admittedly not a best in class product - I am sure osi pi is better

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by 123pie123 »

gog wrote: post #50
123pie123 wrote: post #45

i've just bought a cheap esp32 with a light sensor connected to it. then connected light sensor (ie bluetac) to my electicity meter that pulses every 1/1000 1KW/Hr, it uploads the data to google sheets which graphs the output - works great I also have another esp32 at my elderly relatives house with a pir sensor connected to it, it's also sending the movement data to a different sheet on the google sheets site, so th…

I have a Frient Zigbee device that does the same, but sends data to Home Assistant.

Home assist looks good, but my requirements was that my elderly relative was being monitored by all my family (ie they're not on my home wifi/lan) hence the data on the movement needed to be on the internet for all to see

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by recursinging »

septic-liqueur wrote: post #46
recursinging wrote: post #39

One step further. I just installed the Emporia Vue 2 in my distribution box. 16 CTs plus the three mains phases. It's ESP32 based and there is a great ESPHome project that you can flash it with for local only reporting. Add some HA and VictoriaMetrics, and now I can see how the whole house behaves with Grafana. Next up, Zero-Export using this data to steer my little OpenDTU solar plant. We live in such cool times!

Opendtu solar plant - care to elaborate?

OpenDTU is an open source project using an ESP32+CMT2300A for talking to Hoymiles Micro-Inverters. Local Only.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by Mister_Snuggles »

dsab wrote: post #14

Guys what are your favourite smart plug? I need one with easy integration with grafana, not sucking, and shipment to EU country?

I’ve got some Sengled E1C-NB7 plugs that I really like. The form factor is nice, they work perfectly with Zigbee2MQTT and Home Assistant, and they’ve got a power button on the device itself.

I want to buy more and they don’t seem to be available anymore.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by whitehexagon »

123pie123 wrote: post #45

i've just bought a cheap esp32 with a light sensor connected to it. then connected light sensor (ie bluetac) to my electicity meter that pulses every 1/1000 1KW/Hr, it uploads the data to google sheets which graphs the output - works great I also have another esp32 at my elderly relatives house with a pir sensor connected to it, it's also sending the movement data to a different sheet on the google sheets site, so th…

nice, I like the simple approach. My old meter only had a rotating disc and it took all my effort to get a sensor connected to my arduino that could detect the black mark on the edge of the disc. There was just enough mem for a http service to allow me to pull that value into my iobridge for remote monitoring.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Post by mindslight »

baq wrote: post #35
mindslight wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right up until the Home Assistant UI turns into a lagfest, the installation dies, and you can't debug why because Docker. At least that's what happened to me. And no, it wasn't RPi SD power issues. This happened on an otherwise-stable amd64 server. The Home Assistant authors' hostility towards simple native distributions is now a show stopper for me. Long term reliability is more important than quick initial setup.

It's a Python app, of course being distributed as a docker image is the sanest way of doing it. I don't see why you couldn't just pip install it if you really wanted, but having been a Python developer for close to two decades, I wouldn't want to.

I'm talking about distribution package managers, not pip.
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