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Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by jasoneckert »

Another thing worthy of note is that Traefik is configured by default in K3s. This has allowed K3s to be the quickest way to spin up a K8s cluster for testing, essentially allowing you to treat your cluster like cattle too. Simply add your deployment and associated service using NodePort, and you can access your app without worrying about the ingress controller.

I use a shell script to spin up K3s clusters and test apps I specify as a positional parameter on demand (leveraging the ttl.sh ephemeral container registry). The same script tears down the cluster when finished.

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by sph »

Traefik is pretty cool, but suffers from the same, terrible problem of Ansible: there is a lot of documentation, and a lot of words written, yet you can never find anything you need.

I have used it since v1 and I routinely get lost in their docs, and get immensely frustrated. I have been using Caddy for smaller projects simply because its documentation is not as terrible (though not great by any stretch)

Technical writers: documentation by example is good only for newbies skimming through. People familiar with your product need a reference and exhaustive lists, not explanation for different fields spread over 10 tutorial pages. Focus on those that use the product day in and day out, not solely on the "onboarding" procedure.

This is my pet peeve and the reason why I hate using Ansible so damn much, and Traefik to a lesser extent.

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by mholt »

sph wrote: post #52

Traefik is pretty cool, but suffers from the same, terrible problem of Ansible: there is a lot of documentation, and a lot of words written, yet you can never find anything you need. I have used it since v1 and I routinely get lost in their docs, and get immensely frustrated. I have been using Caddy for smaller projects simply because its documentation is not as terrible (though not great by any stretch) Technical wr…

Funny you say that because we don’t have nearly any examples in the Caddy docs. We’re working on improving them later this year.

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by [deleted] »

silverquiet wrote: post #9

I use Traefik in production (with containers), and my favorite aspect of it is that the configuration is carried via the labels on containers which means I rarely if ever need to make any modifications to the Traefik config itself. I'd say the biggest con is trying to figure out how to pronounce the name - I think it's just regular traffic, but I can't help wanting to call it "trey-feek" or something like that.

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Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by indigodaddy »

mholt wrote: post #28
thinkmassive wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Caddy is primarily a web server like nginx and apache httpd. Traefik and HAproxy are primarily reverse proxies.

Caddy is actually used as a reverse proxy more than a static file server. It's equally excellent and proficient as both! Caddy's functionality is comparable to nginx, apache httpd, and haproxy.

And while we’re at it, it can even forward proxy recentlyish I believe?

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by arush15june »

I use caddy rather traefik. It's much easier to manage the Caddyfile compared to the traefik YAML config IMO, and we just keep three separate Caddyfiles for local, production and on-prem deployments. There are a plethora of great plugins, we use the coraza WAF plugin for caddy and it works well.

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by linsomniac »

sph wrote: post #52

Traefik is pretty cool, but suffers from the same, terrible problem of Ansible: there is a lot of documentation, and a lot of words written, yet you can never find anything you need. I have used it since v1 and I routinely get lost in their docs, and get immensely frustrated. I have been using Caddy for smaller projects simply because its documentation is not as terrible (though not great by any stretch) Technical wr…

Do not agree WRT ansible, been using it for well over 5 years and usually a google search points me right at the correct part of the documentation to answer my question. Ansible, the tool itself, can be a bit obtuse, largely IMHO because of the YAML source language, so some concepts are hard to translate into the tool, but the documentation has never bothered me.

As far as "a lot of words written, can't find what you need", Fortinet is my poster child there (based on trying to use it a decade ago). Everything I looked up there had 10,20,30 pages of introductory material with the Fortinet stuff spread throughout it.

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by lmeyerov »

cagenut wrote: post #32

In a mirror/reverse of the OPs premise - I always wondered why so many of these open source http reverse proxies sprung up in the container era, like what did they offer that varnish or a vmod to varnish wasn't already doing or capable of? somehow varnish almost completely missed the container era, despite seemingly being the exact type of tool a bunch of teams would go on to create.

For Caddy, LetsEncrypt: Free TLS in one line without talking to anyone

For Traefik, afaict, something about k8s

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by throwfaraway398 »

sph wrote: post #52

Traefik is pretty cool, but suffers from the same, terrible problem of Ansible: there is a lot of documentation, and a lot of words written, yet you can never find anything you need. I have used it since v1 and I routinely get lost in their docs, and get immensely frustrated. I have been using Caddy for smaller projects simply because its documentation is not as terrible (though not great by any stretch) Technical wr…

It's funny because one thing I like about ansible is how easy it is to get the reference doc for any module with `ansible-doc -t module`.

I do sometimes struggle to find the right doc when I'm searching for something about ansible core itself, but that doesn't happen too often.

Re: Take a look at Traefik, even if you don't use containers

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Post by pricci »

arush15june wrote: post #56

I use caddy rather traefik. It's much easier to manage the Caddyfile compared to the traefik YAML config IMO, and we just keep three separate Caddyfiles for local, production and on-prem deployments. There are a plethora of great plugins, we use the coraza WAF plugin for caddy and it works well.

I moved from Traefik to Caddy with caddy-docker-proxy for my self-hosting setup.

All the features I need but *much* simpler.

https://github.com/lucaslorentz/caddy-docker-proxy

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