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Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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You need to comprehend the complete loss of trust in authority. This has gone so far as to be inverted: if the government, academia, media, etc enthusiastically endorse something then it is assumed to be harmful until proven otherwise. I say this as someone who shares this mindset. It is as shocking to me that you would queue up for a dangerous vaccine, support mass 3rd world immigration, consume slop full of soy and…

A healthy scepticism for gov and media seems good to me but inverting what they’re saying seems less than sound. At that point what’s left as a sound basis? Fringe blogs? Facebook lunatics? Do your own research isn’t viable either given that I can’t be an expert in everything. Especially with the rise of misinformation. At some point you’ve got to trust something Steak and eggs from the farm seems quite reasonable to…

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Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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Not sure why this is downvoted. Probably because of the agressive wording, but imo you are right. They just want the pure milk, because it's pure. Not because it's better in any way. I do wonder every now and then if there is a way to stop this trend. I do believe that most people know that they'd have all the information available to prove themselves wrong. But that's just uncomfortable. Being the one who "knows bet…

I do not drink raw milk. However, I have once or twice on a farm, and it does taste better. More creamy and full bodied. Like the difference between pasturised orange juice and fresh orange juice. So there is a reason other than purity and ego. The French can access raw milk and cheeses made from raw milk. As I understand it, one or two people a year in France die from this.

I’ve tasted pasteurized milk from a farm. It’s also more creamy and full bodied.

I don’t think it’s the lack of pasteurization that made the milk you tasted different but the fact that it was directly from the farm and from healthier animals.

That being said, oat milk beats the crap out of cow’s milk for me now minus the hormones, antibiotics, abuse and torture.

Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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As far as I can tell, it's in the same weird "purity" deal as anti-vax, anti-mask, and various other kinds of orthorexia. As well as being aligned with anti-helmet and anti-seatbelt campaigners: seemingly they want it because it's dangerous. It makes them feel good to reject objective standards of safety and substitute their own specialness. After all, they're the protagonist, they can't die in the middle of the show…

"As far as you can tell" is just your misinformed and shit-stirring opinion. Pasteurization is unnatural and changes the quality and nutrition of the milk. Baby cows don't drink pasteurized milk, and neither do human babies. In other words, you're projecting--hard. Disclaimer: I drink pasteurized milk like everyone else because raw milk is expensive and hard to source. When I was a child I drank raw milk in glass bot…

Leaving a comment on Hacker News is orders of more magnitude more unnatural than pasteurization.

For that matter, humans drinking the milk of another mammal after they’ve been weaned off their own mamas is ridiculously unnatural.

But you know what is extremely natural? H5N1, ecoli, etc.

The idea that “unnatural” vs “natural” provides any sort of basis for decision making in human life today is laughably stupid.

Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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The whole raw milk thing boggles my mind. It’s hardly a secret that it’s dangerous yet people do it anyway

You need to comprehend the complete loss of trust in authority. This has gone so far as to be inverted: if the government, academia, media, etc enthusiastically endorse something then it is assumed to be harmful until proven otherwise. I say this as someone who shares this mindset. It is as shocking to me that you would queue up for a dangerous vaccine, support mass 3rd world immigration, consume slop full of soy and…

Billions of people have been vaccinated with the COVID vaccine, multiple times. The following link places it at 70% of the world’s population.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Where are all the mass deaths and murders since then?

Even overall death rates and mortality rates have fallen across the world after jumping up during COVID itself.

Even an extremely tiny risk of say 0.1% should have seen aroun 4 million dead. Where are all the overflowing morgues and need for new hospitals we saw when COVID, which has a low mortality rate, and had definitely not infected even close to 70% of people in Italy, or China, was spreading in the early months?

Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

#56
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to comprehend the complete loss of trust in authority. This has gone so far as to be inverted: if the government, academia, media, etc enthusiastically endorse something then it is assumed to be harmful until proven otherwise. I say this as someone who shares this mindset. It is as shocking to me that you would queue up for a dangerous vaccine, support mass 3rd world immigration, consume slop full of soy and…

A healthy scepticism for gov and media seems good to me but inverting what they’re saying seems less than sound. At that point what’s left as a sound basis? Fringe blogs? Facebook lunatics? Do your own research isn’t viable either given that I can’t be an expert in everything. Especially with the rise of misinformation. At some point you’ve got to trust something Steak and eggs from the farm seems quite reasonable to…

“Do your own research” would be ok if people actually did research. Or at the very least, if they were just reading other research they’d look at primary sources and considering how innumerate most people are, made the effort to learn statistics before.

“Do your own research” is absolutely ridiculous when what it means is diving deeper into the rabbit holes presented by the YouTube or TikTok algorithms.

Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to comprehend the complete loss of trust in authority. This has gone so far as to be inverted: if the government, academia, media, etc enthusiastically endorse something then it is assumed to be harmful until proven otherwise. I say this as someone who shares this mindset. It is as shocking to me that you would queue up for a dangerous vaccine, support mass 3rd world immigration, consume slop full of soy and…

Billions of people have been vaccinated with the COVID vaccine, multiple times. The following link places it at 70% of the world’s population. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations Where are all the mass deaths and murders since then? Even overall death rates and mortality rates have fallen across the world after jumping up during COVID itself. Even an extremely tiny risk of say 0.1% should have seen aroun 4…

>> Where are all the mass deaths and murders since then?

Murders?!?! WTH?

Re: Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk

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The whole raw milk thing boggles my mind. It’s hardly a secret that it’s dangerous yet people do it anyway

We (the "West") are too far removed from death and disease being a real, everyday risk so our collective memories forgot why pasteurization is such a good thing

In the Netherlands (Europe?) raw milk is forbidden, but raw cheese is not.
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