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H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread

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Probably not. Unless you have ulcers or open wounds in your mouth/trachea, virus will be digested and destroyed in stomach acid.

Won't the virus be killed by pasteurization which most milk is?

Yes. And they confirmed that it has been in these samples.

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Does anyone know if consuming milk containing viral material confers any level of immunity?

Probably not. Unless you have ulcers or open wounds in your mouth/trachea, virus will be digested and destroyed in stomach acid.

Would gingivitis [1] or other periodontal diseases count?

[1] - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9526927/

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They confirmed there is not live virus in the milk capable of replication. Just remnants after pasteurization.

To clarify, the article says this is not confirmed , but an ongoing research question, - "The researchers expect additional lab studies currently underway to show that those samples don’t contain live virus with the capability to cause human infections"

The studies have been completed. The answer is no live virus.

Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread

#54
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Maybe, just maybe, we should ease off on the factory farming...

It’s just such a shame all 8 billion earthlings are so addicted to food!

We waste like 1/3rd of the food and half of the planet is overweight/obese, I think we could slow down a bit tbh

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There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.

Which of those alt milks are produced using biodiversity supporting practices? Oat? Soy? Almond?

Pea is pretty good, at least here in Europe. Really depends on your ecosystem.

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Non factory farming. Prices will go up and this would be a good thing in addition to treating the animals in a more moral way.

Well that make poor folks harder to fulfill nutrition requirements. Especially for kids that'd be devastating.

A plant-based diet is cheaper than a regular diet: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-chea...

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#57

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It doesn't need to be produced through the incredible wasteful in-between animal. People can either eat straight up plant-based food, or alternatively go for lab grown meat. There's no need to go through all the inefficiency and suffering of factory farms.

I’ve seen videos about lab grown meat being in development. Is it actually available and available at scale? I haven’t looked to see if studies have been done to look at the nutritional profile of lab grown vs normal meat. I’d be curious about that as well before I tried it.

Its not really economic to grow it at scale and how to scale it up is as of yet unsolved last I checked.

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There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.

Alt milks are usually ultra processed and quite unhealthy compared to regular milk. Not sure this is a viable alternative.

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Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread

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There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.

Alt milks are usually ultra processed and quite unhealthy compared to regular milk. Not sure this is a viable alternative.

Soy milk is cooked, blended and strained. Hardly ultra processed.

Cows milk is also cooked, and homogenised.

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