Apple must be delighted to see this.. Because it's an awful UX
Awful UX relative to the Appstore? How so?
AltStore. The first Apple approved alternative App Store
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#52How many apps are there?
Two. Delta the emulator, and a clipboard manager. I assume there will be a few more soon, though Apple still pushes for notarization and such, making things difficult for the lone hacker developing for fun. So I don't expect as many apps as once cydia had. It's pretty cool that I can play Chrono Trigger and Pokemon FireRed Rocket Edition on the go though :) I'd love to see Epic bringing Fortnite to AltStore out of sp…
Epic has already announced they’ll be launching the Epic Games Store on iOS later this year.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think by design of the ecosystem it makes the most sense for apps that can't be on the main store. That would be emulators, uncensored social media, probably apps that do not meet the NSFW policy of the App Store... that kind of thing. I'm not sure we'll see user-enabling apps for proprietary services like newpipe, because it's still a store, so corporate censorship is to be expected. In that sense, it is far infer…
Yattee, an alternative to NewPipe, has been available on the AppStore for over a year. Well before there was any pressure from the DMA. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629
Yattee is a good example for what Apple puts those developers through. Here is a direct quote from their website:
> Apple keeps rejecting macOS version of Yattee for several unrelated and random reasons. As I believe the App Store approval process is random and getting approval depends mostly on whether the reviewer has had a nice day, I keep resubmitting macOS versions with every update so maybe we will get lucky one day.
Re: AltStore. The first Apple approved alternative App Store
#54In Switzerland, Delta Emulator is not available in the App Store since Riley made it an AltStore exclusive in Europe. However, you cannot get AltStore either because Switzerland isn't part of the countries where Apple allows alternative stores: https://support.apple.com/fr-fr/118110#countries-and-regions .
Even reading the page is mildly infuriating because how far it goes to try to scare people away into using AppStore only. I have never seen a company resist a legislation with this much effort before.
What's more stupid is that I can't install my app to my phone. Because it's supposedly not secure according to Apple.
Even more stupid is that if I pay the annual developer fee to Apple, they let me install it.
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#55What does “Apple approved” mean? I know Apple has heavy handed curation, for example requiring various forms of moderation / censorship of social media apps. Can these stores offer whatever they want? Also what’s with that fee? Why aren’t phones forced to operate like traditional operating systems? Apple shouldn’t be allowed to charge fees for people to install software on devices they own.
I'm no expert on the matter, but this is what Apple says: > All apps listed on alternative app marketplaces are submitted to a Notarization process with Apple. Notarization is a baseline review that applies to all apps, regardless of their distribution channel, focused on platform policies for security and privacy and to maintain device integrity. Through a combination of automated checks and human review, Notarizati…
Fuck Apple, I never need their check. I'm not a grandma.
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#56Can someone give me examples of good apps other than emulators?
I think by design of the ecosystem it makes the most sense for apps that can't be on the main store. That would be emulators, uncensored social media, probably apps that do not meet the NSFW policy of the App Store... that kind of thing. I'm not sure we'll see user-enabling apps for proprietary services like newpipe, because it's still a store, so corporate censorship is to be expected. In that sense, it is far infer…
It seems like one of the major categories should be free software apps that Apple won't put in the store because of the license, e.g. GPL. Can alternate stores distribute those on iOS?
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you'll never be able to prove it Like my iPhone 12 getting slower and worse battery with each iOS release even with a new battery...
Yeah you can’t update these phones. Things just degrade if you do. Happily running iOS 15 on my iPhone 12.
That's strange. I'm on iOS 17 on my iPhone 11 Pro and it's just fine. Maybe the battery issues mentioned are due to normal degradation?
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you'll never be able to prove it Like my iPhone 12 getting slower and worse battery with each iOS release even with a new battery...
Yeah you can’t update these phones. Things just degrade if you do. Happily running iOS 15 on my iPhone 12.
I don’t feel like my iPhone 12 mini is slow with 17.4? I guess it doesn’t make sense t argue about subjective experiences but I just wanted add a some anecdata.
Battery feels just fine (over a day, that is with Tailscale turned off [did get better some updates ago.])
Re: AltStore. The first Apple approved alternative App Store
#59How many apps are there?
Two. Delta the emulator, and a clipboard manager. I assume there will be a few more soon, though Apple still pushes for notarization and such, making things difficult for the lone hacker developing for fun. So I don't expect as many apps as once cydia had. It's pretty cool that I can play Chrono Trigger and Pokemon FireRed Rocket Edition on the go though :) I'd love to see Epic bringing Fortnite to AltStore out of sp…
If an alternate store can have a game emulator, could it also have e.g. an Android app emulator, which in turn could run Android app "ROMs" that aren't individually notarized?
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#60Can someone give me examples of good apps other than emulators?
It's about the stupid fees for Apple, iirc. So, they'll arrive in the end. Just not now.