I'm no longer involved at Signal • Hacker News Board

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Post by tim333 » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 8:54 PM UTC

theossuary wrote: post #31

htk wrote: post #30

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Thank you for the link. Now I have enough to form an opinion about her.

Totally. She seems really thoughtful and aware of how absolute freedom (anarchy) just leads to a situation where implicit power structures are created by those who get there first. Hope she and others keep doing good work to ensure that the site lives up to its goal, to catalog all knowledge, not just the knowledge that's easy to catalog.

It seems a bit worrying to me as a frequent user of Wikipedia. I like a "free and open" internet.

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Post by querez » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 9:37 PM UTC

tssva wrote: post #13

querez wrote: post #5

Well this is certainly an unexpected and weird announcement. I actually thought Moxie was (the main person behind) Signal. Not giving any details about this feels weird to me. How are we supposed to trust an organization that prides itself to be the beacon of free communication, when they communicate so... cryptically? Does anyone have more information on what happened here? (And what/if any are the current alternati…

He announced his stepping down as CEO of Signal way back in January of 2022.

ah thank you, I wasn't aware!

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Post by tim333 » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:11 PM UTC

nocobot wrote: post #3

can someone explain why dhh has such strong feelings about katherine maher?

There's an article here (admittedly a bit biased against her) "NPR Chief Bragged About Taking Censorship Orders From Feds As Head Of Wikipedia" https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/17/npr-chief-bragged-about...

which may explain some of it. It reminds me of an odd experience I had with Wikipedia around covid time - I edit a bit and thought you could say covid may have arisen zoonotically like all previous such pandemics or may have come from the nearby lab which was running job ads for bat coronavirus researchers at the time of the outbreak and as an open wiki you could consider both but no - the lab stuff was largely verboten and unmentionable. I guess the above article explains a bit how that happened maybe?

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Post by calciphus » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 11:11 PM UTC

lrvick wrote: post #45

omnimus wrote: post #41

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Cryptocurrencies are securities not money. Unless you have force (army) that enforces your money you will not have money.

Well I have clients that pay me in cryptocurrencies monthly, and I pay for goods and services with them regularly without Visa or Mastercard learning my purchasing behavior to sell to advertisers. Sure cryptocurrency is not as widely accepted online or in person locally as US dollars, but it is far easier to spend those same places than my Euros which actually meets your definition of money.

Surely if you're concerned about privacy, an indelible public record of all transactions you made in and out isn't the way to accomplish that?

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Post by reducesuffering » Mon, Apr 22, 2024, 2:58 AM UTC

lrvick wrote: post #4

1. MobileCoin premines 250m coins 2. Moxie is paid for being on their board 3. Moxie directs non-profit Signal to integrate MobileCoin 4. MobileCoin offers 50% of their premine for sale. 5. Signal/Mobilecoin news spikes price to $60 6. Moxie steps down as CEO of Signal but remains on board 7. Mobilecoin price today is $0.09 8. Moxie is no longer involved at Signal This is why we need decentralization.

I can’t imagine many people less interested in $, that could make boatloads of it, than Moxie. Dude would rather weld, help society cryptographically, and enjoy life with friends than be the billionaire founder he obviously could be.

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Post by lrvick » Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 8:13 AM UTC

omnimus wrote: post #48

lrvick wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I have clients that pay me in cryptocurrencies monthly, and I pay for goods and services with them regularly without Visa or Mastercard learning my purchasing behavior to sell to advertisers. Sure cryptocurrency is not as widely accepted online or in person locally as US dollars, but it is far easier to spend those same places than my Euros which actually meets your definition of money.

People will trade with amazon gift cards or weighted gold. The fact something has value and people will exchange it is not what makes thing money.

money /mŭn′ē/ noun

    A medium that can be exchanged for goods and services and is used as a measure of their values on the market, including among its forms a commodity such as gold, an officially issued coin or note, or a deposit in a checking account or other readily liquefiable account.