> Under Rick Osterloh, a new platforms and devices team will be dedicated to bringing AI to your phone, your TV, and everything else that runs Android.
Who is asking for this? Why can't they just make their search engine work again?
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#52> Under Rick Osterloh, a new platforms and devices team will be dedicated to bringing AI to your phone, your TV, and everything else that runs Android. Who is asking for this? Why can't they just make their search engine work again?
> Who is asking for this?
Anyone who regularly uses Siri or "Hey, Google".
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
The first priority for Android is competing against iPhone. Any self-dealing to get Pixel to have more of the Android pie would be far down the list, and probably counter-productive. It was already possible under the previous structure anyway.
That's the situation NOW, but it can certainly change in the future. Work with Google as a hardware vendor, grow the Android market with them, and eventually they don't need you and cut you out. It happens.
An american company is never going to be able to produce phones as cheaply as a korean or a chinese company.
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#54Google execs found incapable of speaking two sentences without mentioning AI
If this article was written 4 years ago the title would have been, "Google is combining …, and it's all about Blockchain"
Blockchain is so 2023 for Google. Speaking of blockchain, what happened to the crypto accelerator Google launched in 2023?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conflict of interest is a human invention, and not a law of the universe. There is no "conflict" unless you see it as one. You can play chess against yourself. AlphaGo can, because it wasn't brainwashed about this notion. ChatGPT can debate against itself. You can too, if you don't see it as a conflict. Humans might find it hard, only because they were brainwashed from a child that they need to pick sides. Your neura…
> Conflict of interest is a human invention, and not a law of the universe. There is no "conflict" unless you see it as one. That could be said for anything in the moral and judicial sphere. "There's no theft, property is a human invention", "There's no rape, animals don't have that concept", and so on.
That's true, but there are good reasons for calling theft and rape crimes in civilization.
Conflict of interest, on the other hand, was invented by some lawyer and HR types just to make life harder for the rest of us.
I'm an optimistic engineer, believe in win-win situations, and don't see everything as a conflict.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The market is big enough for Google to create hardware AND other companies to create hardware. You obviously didn't read the comment you're replying to. No one is challenging that. Having the same TEAM in charge of the OS and in-house hardware is an entirely different story. It's a conflict of interest because the person Samsung is talking to to have a feature implemented into the OS baseline may be the same person…
>It's a conflict of interest because the person Samsung is talking to to have a feature implemented into the OS baseline may be the same person in charge of defining the competitive featureset for the next Google hardware. The person can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with Samsung and one that deals with the internal product. > Now this person knows that the product he and his team is designing will c…
>The person can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with Samsung and one that deals with the internal product.
There's a reason we don't make a police chief investigate their own misconduct.
"It's a perfectly OK thing to do. The person is just the host hardware. There can be multiple threads running on that hardware at the same time. They can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with investigating the case and a seperate one that might or might not did it".
"He didn't just declare himself innocent of misconduct and embezzelment out of self-interest. The independent investigating "thread" must have arrived to an impartial decision".
"In any case, it's not blatant misconduct, you only see it as such. There's no notion of misconduct in nature, it's a made up thing we invented".
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#58I recently got a new Pixel phone and Google's much hyped new AI features just seem so... gimmicky. One of the setup examples shows how you can circle a tent on the left side of a picture and move it more to the center. Neat, I guess? It's kind of a fun toy but I'm not sure what problem this is actually solving. I'm sure there are some usecases for this out there, but it's not a capability I have ever found myself wis…
>I recently got a new Pixel phone and Google's much hyped new AI features just seem so... gimmicky Not just that, but their biggest crime is that almost none of those fancy AI features Google paraded at the Pixel launch even actually run on-device but need to be sent to their cloud for processing, despite all the gloating about their new Tensor 3 chip's AI capabilities being the most important (since that chip sucks…
>Absolutely embarrassing.
So sad but this continues to be the case for Google's incursion into AI. Why do they still keep Pichar around?
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Conflict of interest is a human invention, and not a law of the universe. There is no "conflict" unless you see it as one. That could be said for anything in the moral and judicial sphere. "There's no theft, property is a human invention", "There's no rape, animals don't have that concept", and so on.
That's true, but there are good reasons for calling theft and rape crimes in civilization. Conflict of interest, on the other hand, was invented by some lawyer and HR types just to make life harder for the rest of us. I'm an optimistic engineer, believe in win-win situations, and don't see everything as a conflict.
Conflict of interest has been a thing way before lawyers and HR types existed, they understood it and tried to prevent it at any point in history, from ancient Babylon to Rome, and from Amazon native tribes to imperial China.
It's of course also the explicitly expressed reasoning for why there are independent branches of government (legislative, executive, and judicial in the US).
>I'm an optimistic engineer, believe in win-win situations, and don't see everything as a conflict.
Yes, it's called naivety :)
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The market is big enough for Google to create hardware AND other companies to create hardware. You obviously didn't read the comment you're replying to. No one is challenging that. Having the same TEAM in charge of the OS and in-house hardware is an entirely different story. It's a conflict of interest because the person Samsung is talking to to have a feature implemented into the OS baseline may be the same person…
>It's a conflict of interest because the person Samsung is talking to to have a feature implemented into the OS baseline may be the same person in charge of defining the competitive featureset for the next Google hardware. The person can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with Samsung and one that deals with the internal product. > Now this person knows that the product he and his team is designing will c…
> The person can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with Samsung and one that deals with the internal product.
Great find! Does this also apply to a police officer investigating a crime where their spouse is a suspect? Or to a judge presiding over a court case involving themselves?