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Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by throwaway5959 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #48
throwaway5959 wrote: post #28

YouTube Premium (which avoids ads and still pays creators, plus offers downloads) is $14/month. Put another way, let’s say the average Hacker News commentator makes $150k/year or $75/hour, that’s less than 15 minutes of work. Just reeks of “I don’t believe tipping is fair to workers, that’s why I don’t tip.” Edit: downvoted in less than a minute, haha

I agree with your statement, but the tipping thing is totally unrelated. Youtube pays creators for the content they produce (via ad-share or premium sub share). There is no tipping in the loop here.

It’s the mentality. Many of the people that don’t tip aren’t really doing it because they disagree with tipping, they’re doing it because they cheap.

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by [deleted] »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #50
_fat_santa wrote: post #39

Personally I just pay for Youtube Premium. Yes it's $10/month but I found that if you watch alot of Youtube, it's well worth it. Now anytime I'm at friends house and an ad comes up before a video I'm always like "oh right Youtube has ads"

It's funny; I pay for lots of things, even other streaming services in order to not have ads, but I absolutely refuse to give YouTube a single penny. The difference is that every other service made the deal up front - pay X for content, pay Y for content and no ads, and here's the website and here are some mobile apps - while YouTube started out free for all with some really minor ads that you could block if you want…

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Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by Workaccount2 »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #50
_fat_santa wrote: post #39

Personally I just pay for Youtube Premium. Yes it's $10/month but I found that if you watch alot of Youtube, it's well worth it. Now anytime I'm at friends house and an ad comes up before a video I'm always like "oh right Youtube has ads"

It's funny; I pay for lots of things, even other streaming services in order to not have ads, but I absolutely refuse to give YouTube a single penny. The difference is that every other service made the deal up front - pay X for content, pay Y for content and no ads, and here's the website and here are some mobile apps - while YouTube started out free for all with some really minor ads that you could block if you want…

Youtube has had ads since 2007. And complaining about it becoming harder to circumvent ads is silly. Youtube has a clear business proposition, and anyone is free to not use youtube.

Not like their is any real competition though, it only takes two second of business analysis to see that users want a video service where you foot all the costs and charge nothing (ads or subs) for it. Read about what happned to vid.me

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by Akronymus »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #50
_fat_santa wrote: post #39

Personally I just pay for Youtube Premium. Yes it's $10/month but I found that if you watch alot of Youtube, it's well worth it. Now anytime I'm at friends house and an ad comes up before a video I'm always like "oh right Youtube has ads"

It's funny; I pay for lots of things, even other streaming services in order to not have ads, but I absolutely refuse to give YouTube a single penny. The difference is that every other service made the deal up front - pay X for content, pay Y for content and no ads, and here's the website and here are some mobile apps - while YouTube started out free for all with some really minor ads that you could block if you want…

For me, I use revanced in large part just for the removal of shitty "features" such as shorts.

Also, I really don't like double ads before vids and such. So I am happy with revanced.

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by fckgw »

_fat_santa wrote: post #39

Personally I just pay for Youtube Premium. Yes it's $10/month but I found that if you watch alot of Youtube, it's well worth it. Now anytime I'm at friends house and an ad comes up before a video I'm always like "oh right Youtube has ads"

What country? It's $14/mo in the US now, or $23/mo for a family plan.

I wish they would unbundle the stupid Youtube Music from Premium.

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by tzs »

zootboy wrote: post #38
throwaway5959 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are people unwilling to pay creators (in attention or dollars) for making the content they watch? It’s the same with piracy. It was one thing when the content was simply unavailable, now most content is available via a streaming service for an incredibly cheap per monthly cost.

I pay the creators I care about, but I do it through Patreon, not Youtube. Of those $14 of Youtube subscription fees, approximately $0 would go to the creators I care about. If Youtube made some guarantee that the money I spent would only go to the creators I watch, I'd subscribe instantly.

> If Youtube made some guarantee that the money I spent would only go to the creators I watch, I'd subscribe instantly.

Do you mean that all $14 would go to creators you watch, or do you mean that whatever fraction of that $14 goes to creators after YouTube takes their cut only goes to creators you watch?

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by Akronymus »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #45
_fat_santa wrote: post #39

Personally I just pay for Youtube Premium. Yes it's $10/month but I found that if you watch alot of Youtube, it's well worth it. Now anytime I'm at friends house and an ad comes up before a video I'm always like "oh right Youtube has ads"

I'll never understand why people don't think twice paying for the array of streaming services (netflix, hulu, disney, apple, etc.) but the thought of paying for a service with creator profit sharing (and a majority share at that) is unthinkable.

I personally don't pay for any streaming service. Too damn expensive for the few shows I'd have any interest in, most of which aren't even available here, or would require me to subscribe to 5 different services. Along with that, I prefer having the highest bitrate versions possible available to me.

Which I can't with a legit service, as I don't usde HDMI.

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by Workaccount2 »

zootboy wrote: post #38
throwaway5959 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are people unwilling to pay creators (in attention or dollars) for making the content they watch? It’s the same with piracy. It was one thing when the content was simply unavailable, now most content is available via a streaming service for an incredibly cheap per monthly cost.

I pay the creators I care about, but I do it through Patreon, not Youtube. Of those $14 of Youtube subscription fees, approximately $0 would go to the creators I care about. If Youtube made some guarantee that the money I spent would only go to the creators I watch, I'd subscribe instantly.

Youtube gives 55% of your sub to the creators whose videos you watch. It is not at all like spotify.

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by Akronymus »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #31
mmastrac wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you conflating the extremely broken tipping culture/minimum wage system in the US and a multi-billion-dollar company's revenue strategy?

Why are people unwilling to pay creators (in attention or dollars) for making the content they watch? It’s the same with piracy. It was one thing when the content was simply unavailable, now most content is available via a streaming service for an incredibly cheap per monthly cost.

Because those creators I actually care about, I throw a few bucks on a platform that gives them a much better cut than youtube does.

Re: Mobile Ad Blocker Will No Longer Stop YouTube's Ads

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Post by Workaccount2 »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #51
Workaccount2 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your statement, but the tipping thing is totally unrelated. Youtube pays creators for the content they produce (via ad-share or premium sub share). There is no tipping in the loop here.

It’s the mentality. Many of the people that don’t tip aren’t really doing it because they disagree with tipping, they’re doing it because they cheap.

I don't tip (except for the classically tipped positions) because it is not on me to pay for employees. If the business owner wants to pay their employees more, they can raise prices to do so, and I can decide if I want to pay those prices or go elsewhere.

Tipping has just become a way for businesses to pay employees less and promising more while offloading all the guilt onto customers. No thanks.

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