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Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

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Im surprised to see military traffic over the US. They tend to fly with ADSB out turned off and have an agreement with FAA to be able to do that. Also surprised to see gliders who generally don’t broadcast ADSB out. In the US, we are required to have ADSB out within most controlled airspace and within the mode C veil of a major airport (within 30nm and up to 10,000 MSL). So most GA planes have it but remote areas hav…

Those Reaper drones show up on FlightRadar24 and ADSBExchange while patrolling over the Black Sea monitoring Crimea and beyond.

Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

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I find it super frustrating to see well funded tech companies boldly abuse open data resources and assume they can just get away with it. I guess that's the theme of 2024. But to make it clear: you are in violation of the license the data is provided under, and as one of the copyright holders I object to that.

Licenses get abused for one of two reasons, more or less: 1) the license is unenforceable; 2) no one enforces the license.

In some cases, this is only one reason.

Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

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Fighters often don't have ADS-B, but there are lots of other military aircraft that routinely use it (transports, etc.). Go to https://globe.adsbexchange.com and press U to show only military.

I'd read about small retro reflectors they bolt on when not in combat so the stealth fighters will show on domestic radars

Edit: they're called Luneburg Lenses

Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

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You might be frustrated and that's fine, personally I don't know what's missing either but you simply saying "YPU need to figure it out" isn't helpful at all.

Well, here's the language in the license that apparently is too hard for you to find: 4.3 Notice for using output (Contents). Creating and Using a Produced Work does not require the notice in Section 4.2. However, if you Publicly Use a Produced Work, You must include a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed…

I don't think anyone is questioning the correctness of what you are saying, just the aggressive tone and assumption of malice over mistake. Maybe take this as an opportunity to educate licensees rather than ridicule them.

Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

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Im surprised to see military traffic over the US. They tend to fly with ADSB out turned off and have an agreement with FAA to be able to do that. Also surprised to see gliders who generally don’t broadcast ADSB out. In the US, we are required to have ADSB out within most controlled airspace and within the mode C veil of a major airport (within 30nm and up to 10,000 MSL). So most GA planes have it but remote areas hav…

Sometimes they forget to turn it off:

https://theaviationist.com/2023/11/22/usaf-ac-130j-iraq/

Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

#56

Im surprised to see military traffic over the US. They tend to fly with ADSB out turned off and have an agreement with FAA to be able to do that. Also surprised to see gliders who generally don’t broadcast ADSB out. In the US, we are required to have ADSB out within most controlled airspace and within the mode C veil of a major airport (within 30nm and up to 10,000 MSL). So most GA planes have it but remote areas hav…

Sometimes they forget to turn it off: https://theaviationist.com/2023/11/22/usaf-ac-130j-iraq/

That article states that it's unlikely that they forgot, and much more likely that it was deliberate.

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes they forget to turn it off: https://theaviationist.com/2023/11/22/usaf-ac-130j-iraq/

That article states that it's unlikely that they forgot, and much more likely that it was deliberate.

Interesting, when it happened at the time the theory was they forgot.

Re: Show HN: ADS-B visualizer

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post #25

Im surprised to see military traffic over the US. They tend to fly with ADSB out turned off and have an agreement with FAA to be able to do that. Also surprised to see gliders who generally don’t broadcast ADSB out. In the US, we are required to have ADSB out within most controlled airspace and within the mode C veil of a major airport (within 30nm and up to 10,000 MSL). So most GA planes have it but remote areas hav…

For general transport/rebasing, it seems like it would just make life easier on air traffic controllers, and probably also other traffic in the air (I think TCAS uses ADS-B?). By way of analogy, the military might have permission to drive around at night with their lights off, but it'd make me more comfortable if they did that only when it was operationally useful (i.e. I assume B-2s taking off from Missouri to go bo…

Military aircraft operators in the USA are pretty cautions about non-ADS-B Out or non-transponder operations. Air Force bases etc. will have active MACA (Mid-Air Collision Avoidance) programs, with aircraft and controllers working to reduce conflict potential with civilian traffic. Many bases will have MACA information on their web sites and staff to contact, and they are typically very responsive. Ironically the ones I have worked with were trying to encourage more civilian GA aircraft to adopt transponders, and to utilize the flight following services of their ATC/RAPCON.

TCAS uses active transponder interrogation from the TCAS unit interrogating a threat target's Mode-C or Mode-S transponder. TCAS only uses ADS-B In in an indirect way, in large part to acquire traffic in the area that is not yet a threat, and reduce it's RF congestion caused by excessive interrogation, especially of legacy Mode-C targets. A TCAS II system will fly you right into say a UAT out equipped aircraft without issuing an RA (resolution advisory) if that threat aircraft has no transponder or an inop transponder.

TCAS II only issuing an RA based on active interrogation of a threat aircraft's transponder is a kind of safety feature given the potential spoofing of ADS-B Out data.

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