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Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

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Re: Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

#53

4 bit quants should require 85GB VRAM, so this will fit nicely on 4x 24G consumer GPUs, plus some leftover for KV cache optimization.

I've found the 2 bit quant of Mixtral 8x7B is usable for some purposes with an 8GB GPU. I'm curious how this new model will work in similar cheap 8-16GB GPU configurations.

Wouldn't expect that to work at all.

Re: Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

#54
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To this day 8x7b Mixtral remains the best model you can run on a single 48GB GPU. This has the potential to become the best model you can run on two such GPUs, or on an MBP with maxed out RAM, when 4-bit quantized.

I hope i get it to run on my 96gb m2 in q4.

Re: Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

#57

Might be a dumb question but does this mean this model has 176B params?

In Mixtral 8x7B, the 8 means that the model uses Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) layers with 8 experts. The 7B means that if you were to remove 7 of the 8 experts in each layer, then you would end up with a 7B model (which would have exactly the same architecture as Mistral 7B). Therefore, a 1x7B model has 7B params. An 8x7B model has 1 * 7B + (8-1) * sz_expert params, where sz_expert is some constant value that the MoE layers increase by when adding one expert. In the case of Mixtral 8x7B the model size is 46.3GB, so, sz_expert ≈ 5.6B.

If these assumptions port over to 8x22B, then 8x22B has, at 281GB, sz_expert ≈ 13.8B.

Re: Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

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post #57

Might be a dumb question but does this mean this model has 176B params?

In Mixtral 8x7B, the 8 means that the model uses Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) layers with 8 experts. The 7B means that if you were to remove 7 of the 8 experts in each layer, then you would end up with a 7B model (which would have exactly the same architecture as Mistral 7B). Therefore, a 1x7B model has 7B params. An 8x7B model has 1 * 7B + (8-1) * sz_expert params, where sz_expert is some constant value that the MoE lay…

Oh, and to answer your actual question: Assuming that the model is released with 16 bits per parameter, then it as 281GB / 16 bit = 140.5 parameters.

Re: Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

#59
post #57

Might be a dumb question but does this mean this model has 176B params?

In Mixtral 8x7B, the 8 means that the model uses Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) layers with 8 experts. The 7B means that if you were to remove 7 of the 8 experts in each layer, then you would end up with a 7B model (which would have exactly the same architecture as Mistral 7B). Therefore, a 1x7B model has 7B params. An 8x7B model has 1 * 7B + (8-1) * sz_expert params, where sz_expert is some constant value that the MoE lay…

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Re: Mistral AI Launches New 8x22B MOE Model

#60
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 3:30a France local? Alrighty. I still wait a lil bit ;)

What could a malicious model do, though? Curse at you?

Exploit a memory safety issue in the tokenizer/or other parts of your LLM infra written in a native language.
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