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It's not what the world needs right now

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Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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“I ask a model what they would get paid for a shoot and propose $2,000 to Barney’s. They reject my proposal and offer a $1,000 gift card.” Probably asked a woman model not a male model. Women get double what men get for modeling.

Not necessarily. Depends on the woman, depends on the man, and often on their reps.

More likely because it was an advertorial, both for the brand and the “models”.

Fun read.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Honesty is not what the author is going for here. This is genre autofiction following a throughline of slumming, marginal artists that carries back through punk, beat, flapper, and la boheme writers. It's entertainment, not true confession or activism, and it delights in getting under the skin of squares who can't tell. No need to push back on the people reactively criticizing the character or writer -- that's the po…

Deliberately making art that people think sucks seems like kind of a low bar?

It don't think the aim was to write a piece that people think sucks, it was to write about a person who people think sucks. There is a difference, or at least there used to be: I feel like increasingly people are unable to separate the literary value of a piece from the moral value of its protagonist. This piece reminds me of Charles Bukowski's books about the "lowlife" Hank Chinaski. Another more extreme example of a good book with a shitty protagonist is Lolita, which IMO couldn't be published today or Nabokov would be shunned and ostracised as a paedophile.

(None of this is to say you need to like the blog post, you might hate it on its own merits, but I definitely think there are a lot of people here who think it's a bad piece because they disagree with the choices the protagonist makes, which I think is a very limiting view.)

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Most other comments so far have viewed this artist's lifestyle negatively, as he wrote that he got by via abusing various policies and tax fraud (via "[hallucinating] a DJ software skin" to claim as a business expense). But he's an interesting person for sticking to his craft for close to a decade now: he has persisted in working hard to produce artwork and submit it for exhibition. However, to what extent is this li…

Why would that be risky?

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Someone probably said the same thing to Van Gogh during his life.

Nearly everyone said the same thing to Van Gogh during his life. He was only recognized for his artwork after his death.

That’s not quite true. Yes people cared less about his art while he was alive, but that was because of his erratic behavior. There was no doubt that the people surrounding him found his art beautiful, especially In his later years when he was staying at the clinics

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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The question I have not yet seen in the comments here is whether or not this post is real or fiction. Is it the journal of a questionable character, or a deliberate attempt to push people's buttons? And honestly, that is why I like it. I really hope it cannot be taken at face value - that would be disappointment.

Kinda gives me Bukowski vibes, like if Hank Chinaski had gone to art school.

When I think Bukowski, I think a Pasadena residence punctuated by visits to the Queen Mary

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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The question I have not yet seen in the comments here is whether or not this post is real or fiction. Is it the journal of a questionable character, or a deliberate attempt to push people's buttons? And honestly, that is why I like it. I really hope it cannot be taken at face value - that would be disappointment.

> Is it the journal of a questionable character, or a deliberate attempt to push people's buttons?

Reminds me of some of Hunter S Thompson's writing (who always insisted his sordid semi-autobiographical tales were drawn directly from even more depraved true events).

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Deliberately making art that people think sucks seems like kind of a low bar?

It don't think the aim was to write a piece that people think sucks, it was to write about a person who people think sucks. There is a difference, or at least there used to be: I feel like increasingly people are unable to separate the literary value of a piece from the moral value of its protagonist. This piece reminds me of Charles Bukowski's books about the "lowlife" Hank Chinaski. Another more extreme example of…

> It don't think the aim was to write a piece that people think sucks, it was to write about a person who people think sucks.

You're right, and it's what edgy teenagers can do in their sleep, aka middle school math class. I would much prefer he created actual art (written or visual) I could care about.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Fewer snarky comments like yours maybe. I believe we won’t solve humanty’s pressing problems with more of the same. We need more love and understanding for sure.

Well, your comment literally said, "less of everything" " more love and understanding" Was not mentioned. So I am not sure how your first comment could help, to make the world a better place. "we won’t solve humanty’s pressinge problems with more of the same." And generic statements like these maybe neither. Because when people are hungry(many are), yes they need more food. More of the same. But your comment implies…

But your comment implies there are also maybe too many people anyway? So rather less food and then eventually less people?

Those are your ideas, I never even meant to imply them.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Several commenters here hate the writer, calling him "completely insufferable", "a character that the reader hates", or "a selfish, narcissistic jerk". But I didn't find him that bad? His worst crime was stealing a $4000 suit from Barneys New York.
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