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Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by skydhash »

llm_trw wrote: post #41
criddell wrote: post #19

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> Social media is shouting at the void at best At best, social media is an additional way of keeping in touch with people you know and care about.

When social media came online in the 00s it was just a way to keep track of your friends. That's it. You made friends, you added them to your network. It's insane to me that we're still using social media to mean whatever the fuck we have now. Today social media, including facebook, is all about a few broadcasting their messages to billions. Mastodon isn't much better. What happened to the social graph? Everyone is o…

> When social media came online in the 00s it was just a way to keep track of your friends. That's it. You made friends, you added them to your network.

Current closest to that is Whatsapp( and Telegram). Even though Meta just added channels, but at its core, you only get access to your contacts updates. There are also groups which makes it more like IRC without the flexibility.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by internetter »

richrichie wrote: post #15

Mastadon is too small to matter as social media. Tight knit, walled echo chamber though.

Mastodon was the epicenter of the XZ discourse. The original discoverer uses it. Krebs uses it. I attribute my success to it. Maybe this was true a few months ago, but it's very quickly establishing itself for tech discussion

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by alistairSH »

blueflow wrote: post #36
criddell wrote: post #19

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> Social media is shouting at the void at best At best, social media is an additional way of keeping in touch with people you know and care about.

Honestly, i don't need to see my aunts and uncles posting pictures of themselves LARP'ing what society considers a happy life. Not saying that they are not happy, but all the social media stuff feels so staged and unreal.

Heck, I'd be happy if it were my uncles in my feed. It's not, it's random strangers LARPing at what's obviously a very contrived lifestyle. "Hey look at me in my camper van - this is awesome - oh and I'm wearing a thong just in case the content isn't interesting enough" LOLWUT, I don't need that in my life. I only keep a FB/Insta account to stop somebody else squatting/stealing my name.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by elondaits »

altdataseller wrote: post #33

Nobody would care if you own just a personal site, but if you’re a company (and not well know ) I sometimes check to see if you’re on LinkedIn, or have posted recently on Twitter. Because if you haven’t, that might be a sign you might be going out of business Maybe that’s unfair. But I would think twice before relying on your product for anything important

100%. I recently had to research scuba diving centers in a city I’ll visit soon, and part of my criteria was to check how recent their Google Maps comments were, and how active their Instagram was. Some diving centers are the center of a community of divers, who will follow and comment on their pictures… while other are more commercial endeavors for tourists that just post on a schedule and no one cares about it. Social media activity is also a good way to deduce if they’re active, positive and growing their business or if they’ve checked out and entered “maintenance mode”.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by skydhash »

tambourine_man wrote: post #31
criddell wrote: post #19

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> Social media is shouting at the void at best At best, social media is an additional way of keeping in touch with people you know and care about.

That's what a social network was supposed to be. We changed the name because it's not that anymore. It's people you never knew and never will producing content in exchange for advertisement.

If I had to build a visionOS version of Twitter, it would be Times Square. Then a potentiometer as a control to move the timeline.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by Dalewyn »

outime wrote: post #37
weinzierl wrote: post #16

I find it interesting, that social media and messaging apps are kind of thrown into one pot increasingly. My mental model has always been like: - Twitter, Bluesky, Mastodon - Slack, Discord, Zulip, IRC - WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Matrix - Zoom, Teams, Jitsi With mass communication to individual communication from top to bottom (and increasing freedom roughly from left to right). It seems these distinctions get blur…

I find it funny that if I were to read your comment outside of this website, I could most likely identify it as a HN comment because it mentions barely-used sites popular in HN (such as Bluesky, Signal, Jitsi, IRC, etc), but skips mentioning actually popular ones everywhere else (like Snapchat, Facebook/Messenger, Instagram, TikTok, etc).

IRC is not a website.

Speaks a lot as to the changing sands of time.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by gorjusborg »

weinzierl wrote: post #49
outime wrote: post #37

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I find it funny that if I were to read your comment outside of this website, I could most likely identify it as a HN comment because it mentions barely-used sites popular in HN (such as Bluesky, Signal, Jitsi, IRC, etc), but skips mentioning actually popular ones everywhere else (like Snapchat, Facebook/Messenger, Instagram, TikTok, etc).

Oh, I agree so much, but I am not sure about your examples either: Snapchat - does it even exist anymore? It had its time, but personally I don't know anyone still there. Same with Facebook Messenger, which has completely been replaced by WhatsApp in my (non-nerd) circles. I thought about including TikTok but it would be more in the - YouTube, TikTok, Vimeo, PeerTube category. To me, these are borderline social media…

> Snapchat - does it even exist anymore?

I can't say overall, but my children and their friends use snap as their first line of communication, with iMessage a close second.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by chadd »

weinzierl wrote: post #49
outime wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it funny that if I were to read your comment outside of this website, I could most likely identify it as a HN comment because it mentions barely-used sites popular in HN (such as Bluesky, Signal, Jitsi, IRC, etc), but skips mentioning actually popular ones everywhere else (like Snapchat, Facebook/Messenger, Instagram, TikTok, etc).

Oh, I agree so much, but I am not sure about your examples either: Snapchat - does it even exist anymore? It had its time, but personally I don't know anyone still there. Same with Facebook Messenger, which has completely been replaced by WhatsApp in my (non-nerd) circles. I thought about including TikTok but it would be more in the - YouTube, TikTok, Vimeo, PeerTube category. To me, these are borderline social media…

Great point about disregarding our own bubbles. Here's a good example re:Snapchat. Slightly more than 5% of the world is on Snapchat daily. That number has been going up, almost without fail, quarter over quarter for 12 years.

Re: Almost no one cares if your site is not on social media

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Post by dagw »

weinzierl wrote: post #49
outime wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it funny that if I were to read your comment outside of this website, I could most likely identify it as a HN comment because it mentions barely-used sites popular in HN (such as Bluesky, Signal, Jitsi, IRC, etc), but skips mentioning actually popular ones everywhere else (like Snapchat, Facebook/Messenger, Instagram, TikTok, etc).

Oh, I agree so much, but I am not sure about your examples either: Snapchat - does it even exist anymore? It had its time, but personally I don't know anyone still there. Same with Facebook Messenger, which has completely been replaced by WhatsApp in my (non-nerd) circles. I thought about including TikTok but it would be more in the - YouTube, TikTok, Vimeo, PeerTube category. To me, these are borderline social media…

Snapchat - does it even exist anymore?

It's the primary mode of group communication for my teenage daughter and everybody in her social circles. Second place is probably Discord, but that is heavily skewer towards people she knows via gaming.

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