The issue I noticed is I still could make calls from and to local numbers (+33 to +33) but not from/to foreign numbers (+33 to +else)
WhatsApp Outage
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Re: WhatsApp Outage
#52Proof that services written in Erlang CAN go down! (Though it's probably DNS...)
FWIW, WhatsApp shouldn't go down because of DNS. At least, it didn't while I was working there. There are (were?) IPs baked into the app packages so that when you're on a network with bad DNS, the app still works. This also protects against authoritative DNS outages.
That said, the haiku readily transforms to BGP:
It’s not BGP
There’s no way it’s BGP
It was BGP
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#53The issue I noticed is I still could make calls from and to local numbers (+33 to +33) but not from/to foreign numbers (+33 to +else)
That's odd – I wouldn't expect WhatsApp to use the phone number for any internal routing-related decisions (or as anything other than an account identifier in general). If it's a routing issue, that could explain the problems being localized, but I wouldn't expect the actual account phone number to have any bearing on it.
I've had no issues using it all day across several countries for both calls and texts.
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: is making a joke frowned upon on HN?
Generally, yes, although if the joke is nerdy enough it is sometimes liked. It's a fine line to walk, and you're probably better off not doing it.
But the thrill of having walked it and lived (in terms of karma)... Nothing like it!
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#55This will die out when Apple enabled RCS.
lolno Why the hell are you going to abandon the app that you have and where all of your friends are? What incentive do you have? RCS isn't even feature-complete compared to WhatsApp and has for example no encryption.
It does have encryption in Google Messages like WhatsApp https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/google-enables-end-t...
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
lolno Why the hell are you going to abandon the app that you have and where all of your friends are? What incentive do you have? RCS isn't even feature-complete compared to WhatsApp and has for example no encryption.
It does have encryption in Google Messages like WhatsApp https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/google-enables-end-t...
That's not RCS though, that's Google Messages. It's a platform-specific encryption feature not part of RCS in any way and will not be a part of the implementation when Apple adds RCS.
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#57This will die out when Apple enabled RCS.
lolno Why the hell are you going to abandon the app that you have and where all of your friends are? What incentive do you have? RCS isn't even feature-complete compared to WhatsApp and has for example no encryption.
RCS has enough features for most people, and it will be pre-installed. After people will realize that mobile operating systems can do modern texting without any crutches from their respective app stores, they will increasingly not bother with them, and that will make Whatsapp to gradually be less and less important in an accelerating pace.
Those who actually care about e2ee don't use Whatsapp, because it is closed source and it nags users into enabling plaintext cloud backups.
Of course, if Apple's RCS implementation won't work without carrier-provided RCS, it will be dead in arrival outside North America and China.
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#58Curious that since it's the .in domain, the map just shows India. But if you replace it with .com, or .de, it will show the map of those countries (with .de it redirects to a German version of the domain). Someone said the other week that downdetector just monitors how many people check their site for outages, and if in a five minute time period 20000 people are looking at them to see if WhatsApp is down... then, tha…
I mean.. let's be fair, you open that site only when something isn't working, and are curious, if it's your phone/pc to blame, or if others have the same problem.
Re: WhatsApp Outage
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
lolno Why the hell are you going to abandon the app that you have and where all of your friends are? What incentive do you have? RCS isn't even feature-complete compared to WhatsApp and has for example no encryption.
RCS has enough features for most people, and it will be pre-installed. After people will realize that mobile operating systems can do modern texting without any crutches from their respective app stores, they will increasingly not bother with them, and that will make Whatsapp to gradually be less and less important in an accelerating pace. Those who actually care about e2ee don't use Whatsapp, because it is closed so…
> if Apple's RCS implementation won't work without carrier-provided RCS
Could you explain? If RCS works without carrier support, why would Google rely on carrier support in the first place? (It seems for phone number verification, they rely on SMS. I'm confused.)