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Hosting a Public Website on MS-DOS (2022)

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Re: Hosting a Public Website on MS-DOS (2022)

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ought to be enough for anybody ... :-p I was surprised to find out there is a TCP/IP stack for DOS, I remember still having to depend on non-MS software as late as Win 3.1 to connect to the internet [1], never heard of "LAN manager" [2] but apparently it did have (some?) support. Btw, according to its author, "mTCP is a hobby project that I started in 2005." [3] -- 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpet_Winsock 2:…

You could get all kinds of network stacks for msdos. Net ware, 3Com XNS, a weird proto Microsoft network I can’t recall the name of, banyan vines, decnet . Weird stuff for ibm token ring networks. And yep TCP as well. When lan manager was released you could run it over a choice of networks TCP included, because the original lan manager ran on Unix as well as OS/2 as the server.

> a weird proto Microsoft network I can’t recall the name of,

NetBIOS / NetBEUI ?

Re: Hosting a Public Website on MS-DOS (2022)

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post #51

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You could get all kinds of network stacks for msdos. Net ware, 3Com XNS, a weird proto Microsoft network I can’t recall the name of, banyan vines, decnet . Weird stuff for ibm token ring networks. And yep TCP as well. When lan manager was released you could run it over a choice of networks TCP included, because the original lan manager ran on Unix as well as OS/2 as the server.

> a weird proto Microsoft network I can’t recall the name of, NetBIOS / NetBEUI ?

NetBEUI - that's it.

Re: Hosting a Public Website on MS-DOS (2022)

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These bots you are talking about are not intelligent, they do not find "insecure" servers to break into. They simply brute-force and exploit known bugs on popular services. There is no botnet targeting web services running on DOS, because no one is running web services on DOS.

>they do not find "insecure" servers to break into. They simply brute-force and exploit known bugs on popular services. What exactly is the difference?

Finding insecure servers, what human hackers would do, requires persistence, time and a working brain.

Bots, instead, throw shit at a wall and see what sticks. Move your SSH server with credentials root:root on port 1234 and notice how many bots get utterly defeated (only for sake of argument, because OpenSSH has a banner which makes it easy to identify wherever it's running)

Re: Hosting a Public Website on MS-DOS (2022)

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>they do not find "insecure" servers to break into. They simply brute-force and exploit known bugs on popular services. What exactly is the difference?

Finding insecure servers, what human hackers would do, requires persistence, time and a working brain. Bots, instead, throw shit at a wall and see what sticks. Move your SSH server with credentials root:root on port 1234 and notice how many bots get utterly defeated (only for sake of argument, because OpenSSH has a banner which makes it easy to identify wherever it's running)

>Bots, instead, throw shit at a wall and see what sticks

And once it sticks, an insecure server has been found. A bot is just a tool someone is using.

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