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Why are most sofas so bad?

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Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#51
post #16

The article seems to exaggerate a bit, because neither in 2024, nor in 2004, would I have expected a $1,200 couch to be 'well-made'. (Although I wouldn't expect either one to actually fall apart in two years of use.) This isn't exactly a novel problem.

Correct. According to this 1975 catalog https://ikeamuseum.com/en/explore/ikea-catalogue/1975-ikea-c..., Ikea sofas could be bought for the equivalent of $1000 today.

Higher-end sofas would have logically cost much more...

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#52
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$1k just ain't what it used to be. My wife and I just spent $5k on a sectional from West Elm a year ago and the fabric is already starting to pill.

This is why I trust IKEA’s price to quality ratio. I know I won’t be getting the highest quality, but I will likely be getting the highest quality to price ratio. Got this one in 2016 for $1,100, and it’s survived 2 kids with minimal pilling. It won’t impress anyone, but I have no problem using it. https://www.ikeaddict.com/ikeapedia/en/Product/60276883/us-e... I have no way of discerning furniture/fabric quality, an…

Yeah, the correct choices for furniture these days are basically: used (cheap if you’re not buying something trendy like mid century modern), IKEA, or super-expensive really-good stuff. Anything new that’s cheaper than that last category’s usually just gonna be as bad or worse than IKEA, plus 1.2x-5x the price. And likely uglier.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#53
About 10 years ago I went shopping at Furnitureland South, mentioned in the article. The selection was a bit overwhelming, but we picked out a solid wood bedroom set from a manufacturer in Canada. It's held up great, as has my kids' IKEA bedroom furniture.

I've purchased couches from West Elm, Restoration Hardware, and a few other well-known places, and they've all been disappointing. From now on I'll stick to Furnitureland and IKEA, but I don't know if I have the energy to go couch shopping at Furnitureland.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#54

I've posted about our ~$2000 West Elm sofa that disintegrated within 2 years in a similar previous thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37393399 The whole thing is just stapled together OSB. I ripped the dust cover off and added 3 new frame stretchers made from 2x8 construction lumber (and tied other loose joints back together) and its done pretty well since then: https://imgur.com/a/bqlLgW3 (wish I'd gotten…

West Elm has a bit of a reputation in that regard

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#55
This is a good dig into changes in design and manufacturing trends, which makes sense for Dwell, but I suspect we'd see more people complaining about their furniture quality these days even without manufacturing changes because many people are like 50% heavier than the people in sitting in couches 50 years ago -- and often more likely to collapse into a sofa than to set themselves down upon it.

So it's actually kind of a two sided loss in quality: the designs are flimsier even while the engineering requirements have become more demanding.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#56
post #15

Despite the article mentioning other things, it seems like at least half the problem can be avoided by never buying furniture online.

I ordered a dresser once from a local store, they bought some cheap crap from Amazon and passed it off as "shipping from storage". It arrived broken and I couldn't get my money back, which I probably would have if I got something similar through an online retailer.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#57
post #28
post #15

Despite the article mentioning other things, it seems like at least half the problem can be avoided by never buying furniture online.

Not really. Regular retailers aren’t immune. Let’s be real too: nobody’s going underneath the sofas at Crate and Barrel to see how they’re constructed. It doesn’t really matter that you can see and touch them. I don’t even think the luxury brands are much better (e.g., RH). They’ll give you some solid woods and finer materials where you can see them. They are better but not by the amount I would like. The cheapness i…

Darn I was hoping pottery barn would be reliable..

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#58

I've been very happy with my Lovesac sofa, but its pricing is borderline extortionate.

I am happy with my Lovesac sofa, too. It was expensive, but I can't think of another product I could expect to be as happy with, so Lovesac seems to be in a class of their own and can demand whatever price they want.

In particular, it's comfortable, well built, but not bulky. I can take it apart move it in my regular sized SUV if needed. I move a lot, and eventually grew tired of bulky things that were difficult or impossible to move without professional help.

I also tried a Burrow sofa which has the same modular properties, but it was not comfortable at all and I had to return it

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#59

Next time you stay at a mid-range or better hotel, notice the furniture. They don't but junk because in the long run it never lasts, and whose going to pay for a nice hotel room with tacky furniture? A couple of months ago, we stayed in a newer Holiday Inn Express. The bed and cabinets were very nice and well built.

I imagine holiday inn is all custom built to spec.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#60
OT:

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