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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Ahem. The base rate for a healthy person dying in the week or so leading up to their important testimony is tiny . It's reasonably likely (20%+) that this was foul play.

In an infinite universe, the unlikeliest of events has happened an infinite number of times.

And, in all of them, each copy of me believes the least likely explanation the least.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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"Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing but I'm immediately skeptical. EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. archive.is has the original. https://archive.is/wj0LE

>Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. A YT video speculated (wildly one would say) about someone's recent death simply because the cause was not announced by the family as it was under (UK) inquest. In some jurisdictions it is inappropriate (or even illegal) to state or speculate on a cause of death when it is under investigation as a suspected suicide, even just to limit the poss…

No. NZ law is completely irrelevant to a UK news source's reporting on a U.S. death.

And the source is the man's attorney. https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/boeing-whist...

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court? Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where he was employed, not the government.…

Name a juridiction where he would have been both i)taken in and ii)secure.

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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Irrespective of this specific case, do you honestly believe it is inconceivable one of the largest defense contractors in the world with deep connections to the military and intelligence apparatus would be capable of having an individual murdered if it were sufficiently important to their interests?

No, not they are not. The military and intelligence apparatus does not care if Boeing has to pay a fine. They will not carry out an execution at Boeing’s behest just to save them from a lawsuit. Conspiracy theorists love conspiracy theories because they allow them to feel smarter than the “sheeple” that believe the official story. They don’t care if the actual conspiracy theory is wildly implausible and stupid, it’s…

The military and intelligence apparatus does not care

You don't need the whole apparatus, just someone who has been trained by it and is morally flexible. Well, you don't even need that, but obviously people with professional experience tend to do a better job.

We do not have evidence yet of this being a murder-for-hire or similar, but you're insisting on the impossibility of such when in reality it's not all that unusual. Excluding it as a possibility is just as much cognitive bias as assuming it to be true.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irrespective of this specific case, do you honestly believe it is inconceivable one of the largest defense contractors in the world with deep connections to the military and intelligence apparatus would be capable of having an individual murdered if it were sufficiently important to their interests?

No, not they are not. The military and intelligence apparatus does not care if Boeing has to pay a fine. They will not carry out an execution at Boeing’s behest just to save them from a lawsuit. Conspiracy theorists love conspiracy theories because they allow them to feel smarter than the “sheeple” that believe the official story. They don’t care if the actual conspiracy theory is wildly implausible and stupid, it’s…

> Conspiracy theorists love conspiracy theories because they allow them to feel smarter than the “sheeple” that believe the official story. [...] Sorry but couldn’t be me, I am not dumb enough to fall for that cognitive hazard.

You're right, you'd have to be a total idiot to structure your worldview around the assertion that you're smarter than everyone else.

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Ahem. The base rate for a healthy person dying in the week or so leading up to their important testimony is tiny . It's reasonably likely (20%+) that this was foul play.

Like the report that he killed himself due to pressures of the case or the fact that he gave 32 years of his life to a company that's calling him a traitor isn't compelling enough.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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It's just crazy to think how much things can change. Boeing was once the pinnacle of innovation; a company which achieved something seemingly impossible at commercial scale and then perfected it to an incredible standard. It's just crazy to think that such perfect company could decline to such low standard both on the technical side and ethics side.

It looks like a HR problem. They replaced people who are very good at building stuff with people who are very good at politics. But no amount of bullshitting can substitute engineering excellence when it comes to keeping aircraft in the air.

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